📢 Forum Update - Hello everyone! I've made an improvement to the forum that should make following active discussions much easier. Beginning today, forum topics will display the most recent replies first (while keeping the original topic post at the top), so you no longer have to navigate through multiple pages to find the latest conversation. This change also helps improve the browsing experience in long-running discussions with many pages of replies. If you notice anything that doesn't seem to be working correctly or have any feedback, please let me know. — Richard G. i've got a picture of my granddaughter walking behind my husband, trying to walk in his steps behind him. if only I had thought it was that much fun to follow the Lord years ago! I don't know answers, TR, the only thing i've got to go on is trying to follow what God's word says. I understand that imperfectly. it does comfort me though to consider that God has a timeline that no person can undo, its a span that is being crossed one tick at a time. when we get to the place that is already planned, no event will stop our Lord from bringing us :flyup: That's a highly precious thing, isn't it, to know the Lord's heart more fully. He believes you were worth dying for. Well said Regina. All that we can glean from the scriptures detailing God's precise nature, His sovereignty, and all the tie ins with Israel it is sad that they missed the legitimacy of not only Jesus as messiah but the mystery of the Church as well. I'm surely not claiming that my speculations/views are correct, but simply offer a different perspective. Even if I were a man of learning and letters, and understood with wisdom the whole of the God's Word, that still wouldn't allow me to say that I fully understand the Lord's heart in all matters! The fear of the Lord might be the beginning of wisdom, but knowing His heart would certainly be the fullness of wisdom! TR and then there is the possibility that the rapture has nothing to do with Jewish something or Gentile something, but rather that we have arrived at a time planned by God since the foundation of the world. * in the fullness of time, right on God's timing, Jesus was born... Luke 1:26-35 2:5-12 Gal 4:4-5 * at the fulfillment of time Jesus died...Daniel 9:25-26 Isaiah 46:9-10 Romans 5:6 * he rose again on the third day fulfilling what Jesus said...Matt 16:21;17:22-23; Luke 18:31-32 (see Leviticus 19:5-7, nothing of the offering is to be left on the 3rd day, the dead sacrifice is gone! Jesus was no longer present in dead form, but alive on the 3rd day :yahoo: ) and then there is this account of whose side God is on... Joshua 5:10-14 What is relevant is God's plan :mail: He chooses the time and place What's happening before the second coming and also through to the eternal state is on a timeline, and so the removal of the church is also within the timeline, slotted in when God has appointed it for His reasons Daniel 12:7 tick tick tick... all i know for sure is we are closer than in 2009 or 2010 when I first started paying attention Indeed many have concluded that the Rabbi's of Israel would not accept someone who was not Jewish. That said, the times being what they will be then, they might cave. In either case, they will be deceived! Speaking of being Jewish, I again ask why so many think that the Rapture of the Bride of Christ has to be closely related to anything Jewish? Israel by and large has rejected Christ for two thousand years and will continue to do so until midway of the Tribulation. As such, how loudly will the Rapture speak to the nation of Israel?! Truly we are told that only in hindsight and when the veil is lifted from their eyes, can they see Christ. The mystery of the Rapture seems to me to be a predominately Gentile issue. Their eyes are still focused on the coming messiah, or what we call His second coming! So if the Rapture then occurs on a day having nothing to do with Israel which is plausible, why are we prophetically focused on Israel's calendar? We certainly need to remember that the Gentile Church of Christ was established in part to invoke Israel's jealousy! Again, not replacement theology, but just simply stating the facts. It is understood that Christ is Israel's unrecognized messiah. And the gift of the Holy Spirit of God given to the Gentiles was always part of God's plans. Both of which are still refuted to this day, by Israel! So then when God acts independently and sovereignly with the Gentiles, God doesn't need Israel's validation. It seems to me that Jewish times and seasons don't necessarily need to validate the timing of the Rapture either! And though we are Gentiles, we still serve the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!!! TR nothing to do with antichrist being jewish,
but it could be fun to make baby hats and baby blankets for all the new little ones in the millenium.
