Here is a great article explaining that Magog is actually ancient Lydia. Here's a snippet of it: Assyrian Court Records The popular identification of the nations of Ezekiel 38-39 is not correct. Despite the traditional viewpoint, professional archeologists know the identity of these nations from the Assyrian Royal Court records. The reliable, clear and detailed records of Assyrian Royal Court show they dealt directly with each of these nations about 100 years before Ezekiel wrote. These are the same records that are referred to in Ezra 4:15, 19 and 5:17-6:7. These passages tell how the Jews of the fifth century BC 538 BC–457 BC overcame opposition by the local Persian governor to the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem by referring to these same Assyrian cuneiform court records. They are also the same records Bible scholars now use to provide independent verification and edification of the Bible’s historical accounts from about 805 BC to 530 BC. The Assyrian Royal Court records provide direct evidence and represent an incontestable primary source on this subject, since they were written during the time period in question by people who were directly involved. Primary sources have greater value than secondary sources, which can include generalizations, speculation and interpretations made long after the occurrence of the events. On this particular subject, too often what has been written about these countries constitutes secondary evidence and is not based on facts. In some instances statements are the product of mischief, bias or not studying all of the available information. The Assyrian Court records show dealings with Magog, Meshech, Tubal, and Togarmah (Ezekiel 38:3-6), the nations that stretched across ancient Asia Minor (modern Turkey) from west to east. From these records we also learn that the ancient nation of Gomer (Ezekiel 38:6), an enemy of the Assyrians invaded Asia Minor by coming down from an area around the northeast shore of the Black Sea. Archeologists know that the militant leader called “Gog” in Ezekiel 38/39 led a confederacy of these nations against invading Gomer. Who and what are Gog and Magog? Gog is a historical man who the Greeks called Gyges of Lydia. In Gyges of Lydia we have the leader the Assyrians called “Gugu, King of Ludu,” and “Gugu of Magugu,” who is referred to in the Bible as Gog of Magog. “Magog” simply means “the land of Gog.” In Akkadian ma means land, so in Akkadian Ma- gugu means “the land of Gugu,” which becomes our Ma-gog. (Just as the Assyrian eponym for the land of the leader called Zamua is rendered as Ma-zamua). Magog is an eponym for the ancient nation of Lydia that was in the westernmost part of Asia Minor. The Assyrians often referred to a new land by the name of the first leader they learned of from this land. The Assyrians dealt with Lydia through Meshech, who were subsequently defeated by Gomer, and thus the Assyrians finally came to deal with Lydia directly. In the prophecy of Ezekiel 38/39 Gog is being used as a “historical type” of the “antichrist” who is prophesied to come during the end times, and Magog is being used as a “historical type” of “the land of the antichrist.” It has been mistakenly believed that the ancient nation of “Magog” in western Asia Minor was the ancient “tribal name” of the “Scythians,” a group of Iranian speaking nomadic tribes from Central Asia (north of Iran) that traveled across the Russian steppes, and came to live in the territory north of the Black Sea. Then, in turn, and again in error, it has been believed that the ancient Scythians were the progenitors of the modern Russians. In Foes from the Northern Frontier Dr. Edwin Yamauchi, a professor of history at Miami University in Ohio emphatically explains that none of the ancient nations referred to in Ezekiel 38-39 can possibly be related to modern Russia. Further, Yamauchi says: “Even if one were to transliterate the Hebrew rosh as a proper name (as does the NAS) rather than translate it as ‘chief’ (as does the KJV, NIV, and Hebrew Tanakh), it can have nothing to do with modern ‘Russia.’ This would be a gross anachronism for the modern name is based upon the name Rus, which was brought into the region of Kiev, north of the Black Sea, by the Vikings only in the Middle Ages.” http://www.newscientificevidenceforgod.com/2012/02/debunking-russiawar-of-gog-and-magog.html?m=1 Interestingly enough, if ancient Lydia is indeed Magog, that was where the seat of Satan was relocated after the fall of Babylon. Pergamum was in Lydia. The seat of Satan was later relocated to Germany. Obama famously (or infamously) used it as a prop. Obama certainly fits the character of Gog... :scratch: Anyway, lots of rabbit trails to explore here. :mail: Talk about Props, check out this photo from a link from a Five Doves post: The picture was taken in the Oval Office of the White House and it was meant to convey a very important message to all of Obama’s supporters and to his enemies as well. The first message is delivered by the throne made of swords he is sitting on. I searched the internet and found the information on this throne as meant to be the swords of all his defeated enemies, so in the throne is the statement that he will destroy all who oppose him. I question those who may dismiss this as to why a president of the USA is sitting on a throne that is intimidating, to say the least, and implies by its very nature a ruthless tyrant bent on the destruction of any who opposes him? Is this a democracy where the president is subject to the laws, constitution, and the people? Second, the is a golden crown in his lap that has what looks like serpents rising above the ring. Crowns are worn by kings, emperors, or royalty, not by presidents. Most significant is the crossbow sitting on the table in front of him with no arrow in it. There are three spheres colored red, green, and white that could represent the colors of Islam. This picture is actually on the official Whitehouse Twitter page. Yes, "You will come from your place in the far North” (the Hebrew word means "the uttermost part of ... All to the fulfilling of scripture! Praise God! TR
The White House tweeted this photo captioned “The Westeros Wing” while President Obama was at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner trading jokes with reporters on May 3, 2014 – U.S. President Barack Obama and other government officials in a meeting in the Oval Office in the White House. The photo has been edited to make Obama appear to sit on the Iron Throne from the TV series Game of Thrones, and props from the series have also been added to the image.
