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Watchman35
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OK.  So I will be the first to admit that I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer.  That said, can somebody help me out here?  How is it possible that Jerusalem remains undivided and under the sovereign control of Israel in the Trump peace plan, yet East Jerusalem is tagged to be the capitol of the a Palestinian state?  Huh?!?  Any insight would be appreciated, but it sounds like a pig with lipstick to me, which does not bode well for America.  If the net result of this plan is to give away land AND split Jerusalem in practical reality, I fear we are about to see what happens when you poke your finger into the apple of God's eye.

Meanwhile, I can certainly see this as a potential forerunner to the Daniel 9:27 covenant that the AC "gabar"s (makes strong, confirms, strengthens).  Just extend the existing four-year period cited today by three years (total of 7) and throw in the Temple, and presto, let the 70th week begin.

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11 I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. 2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. 3 And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”   Revelation 11:1-3

Jerusalem will not be divided until the final 42 months, no matter what is proposed.  When the remnant of Jews flees into the wilderness (Revelation 12), then the city, where the Temple is, will be taken over by the nations.

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President Trump’s Middle East peace plan has jolted regional dynamics, with Israel preparing to quickly annex West Bank land once expected to be part of a Palestinian state and key Arab leaders tentatively backing the U.S. initiative.

The Trump administration has wooed officials from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Oman, Bahrain, and other nations in the region in an effort to transcend the political impasse, and to some extent they are responding. The most important regional players—Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E.—both urged Palestinian leaders to accept the Trump plan as a basis for new talks with Israel, a move that would force them to make significant concessions, such as Israeli annexation of the Jordan Valley.

Now the End Begins

By Geoffrey Grider   1/29/20

On Tuesday, I wrote an article where I said to “look for the wildcard” as President Trump prepared to roll out his long-awaited Peace Plan at the White House. Here we are a scant 48 hours later, and we have our wildcard, and boy, it’s a good one.

Arab leaders across the Middle East in place like the United Arab Emirates, Jordan and Saudi Arabia today are urging the Palestinians to accept the Trump Peace Plan, and return to the negotiating table. Let that little nugget sink in for a moment, is that “come up hither” sounding faintly in the distance?

“For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.” Joel 3:1,2 (KJV)

Let me just clear up something from the other day, as well, I am not in favor of the Two-State Solution or dividing Israel for any reason. For 10 years on this site, I have been the champion of biblical Israel, warning against the Two-State Solution in all its various forms. And still am. But you know as well as I do that the Bible says that Israel will be divided, and the land parted. It cannot be stopped, it has to happen, and I believe we are watching the beginning stages of that right now.

“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.” 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18(KJB)

So as I began to meditate on those verses, a realization softly but firmly settled first in my mind, then in my soul, that it’s time for prophesy to be fulfilled. It is time for us, the Body of Christ, to be removed from off this earth and to be caught up in the clouds with Jesus. Brothers and sisters, it’s time for us to go. So with that, I give my full and complete support to the Trump Peace Plan, the Deal of the Century, because we are about to be caught up in the deal of eternity.

It’s time now, Flight #777 awaits, let’s go. Come get us, Lord, it’s time.

Arab Leaders Support for Trump Peace Plan Marks An Unprecedented Regional Shift Towards Israel

From the WSJ: For decades, Arab and Muslim leaders have held fast to the view that any deal with Israel should include a withdrawal of Israeli forces from Palestinian land, and the establishment of an independent Palestinian state with parts of East Jerusalem as its capital.

While many Middle East leaders still support those goals, officials in Arab capitals have been frustrated by Palestinian leaders’ reluctance to compromise on those points, which has prevented them from strengthening ties with Israel, officials in the region said.

The Trump administration has wooed officials from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Oman, Bahrain, and other nations in the region in an effort to transcend the political impasse, and to some extent they are responding. The most important regional players—Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E.—both urged Palestinian leaders to accept the Trump plan as a basis for new talks with Israel, a move that would force them to make significant concessions, such as Israeli annexation of the Jordan Valley.

“What’s historic here is that it’s the first time, I think since the start of the conflict, that the Arab position has not been a replica of the Palestinian position,” said David  Makovsky, Director of the Project on Arab-Israel Relations at the Washington Institute for near east policy.  “That speaks to a wider sense of regional priorities that the Arab countries have, whether it is Iran, Yemen, Libya or closer ties with the U.S.”
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu moved swiftly after release of Tuesday’s plan to begin the process for annexing all Israeli settlements in the West Bank and parts of the Jordan Valley. Such a step would effectively cement Israel’s hold on land that has been one of the more divisive issues in previous peace talks.

Israeli leaders indicated on Wednesday that they might slow the annexations, but they have support from the Trump administration, making them likely to move ahead.

 

Even Saudi Arabia, perhaps the Arab world’s most important supporter of Palestinian appeals for an independent state, urged the Palestinians to accept the U.S. Plan as the basis for new talks with Israel. 
The U.A.E., Bahrain and Oman

All sent their U.S. ambassadors to the White House on Tuesday, where their presence offered symbolic support for a plan that tilts heavily in Israel’s favor and rejects many longstanding Palestinian demands as non-negotiable. The U.A.E. called the Trump plan a serious initiative that should be an “important starting point for a return to negotiations.

 

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Methinks there will be war over this.

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Yep ...

According to Times of Israel news ...

Abbas called it the “the slap of the century”  “We say a thousand times: No, no and no to the ‘deal of the century,’” Abbas said, adding that the US plan “will not come to pass” and that “our people will send it to the dustbins of history.”

Abbas refused to take a call from Trump ahead of the release of the plan Tuesday, he had also refused to accept a letter sent to him by Trump.

Abbas wants to nullify agreements with Israel, including the 1993 Oslo accords.

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Just read a few articles ... Abbas is trying to seek protest support from the other Arab counties.  So far .. he is only getting sympathy from his 4 ol’ pal buddies ... Ayatollah, Erdogan, Putin and Assad.  Hmmm ... could we be this close for prophecy fulfillment?

Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?

 

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Indeed a threshold in world history has been crossed over.  A new mantle rests upon Israel.  Have no idea how this will all play out, but play out it will!

The fact that the U.S. has so aligned itself with Israel in these last days and was the one nation offering such an initiative is truly noteworthy!

Even so Lord, come quickly!

TR

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Finally, I heard something that at least made a little sense in addressing the face-value contradiction regarding an "undivided Jerusalem" and a Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem.  It took him awhile to show up, but Amir finally put something out.  I'm paraphrasing, but essentially what he said was "East Jerusalem", as the Palestinians refer to it, is actually not part of the true Jerusalem.  It is  town outside of the true Jerusalem that has been renamed to help the Palestinians save face (my words, not Amir's).  This at least helps me understand how Trump could say something that, on its surface, seemed absolutely contradictory.  I still think giving away any land that falls within the biblically defined boundaries of the land given to Abraham and his descendants is offensive to our God, and therefore not a good deal.  But I can now at least understand how someone could call Jerusalem undivided while in the next breath declaring East Jerusalem would be the capital of a Palestinian state, assuming they meet the specified requirements.  In the meantime, this seems to me to be a highly probable forerunner to the Daniel 9:27 covenant.  Someone will come along, tweak it, promise Israel a Temple, and establish a 7-year time period to work out the details, even as the current one allows for four years.  We will be watching from the balcony.  From my perspective, this is just one more solid piece of the end-times prophetic puzzle fitting neatly into place.  Maranatha!!!

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