Tiffany Scheuerman, [Nov 22, 2023 at 4:29 PM] this is from Telegram not me (Tiffany Scheuerman) I am sharing this from Craig Bong on Facebook. He is probably one of the smartest people I have met about Biblical prophecies. This is from his group "Rapture Watchers." He was asked to explain why he believes that the Rapture will take place in Decatur 2023 because they said it wasn't clear to them and not understanding. Well here ya go folks, he has really laid it out in a way that you just see and truly understand. Craig Bong: In summary, the rapture must occur with prophecy converging, not just at any given time and it must be fulfilled on God's appointed time (the moedim, a day of trumpets).... We are told this day will appear to tarry but to watch and wait for it. Psalms 2 gives us a clue to the event. Daniel 9:27 describes who will be present (the conference of the parties) or the many. II Thessalonians 2:1-3 tells us that the revelation of who the man is will be made known to those who are being gathered and the rebellion that is connected to him will be also made known, aka Agenda 2030. This man, a crowned king (Revelation 6:2), must be present in some fashion in order to confirm the covenant. I Thessalonians 5:3 gives us another piece of evidence, that there must be a declaration of Peace and Security (this day is scheduled to occur on December 12th). On the UN side of things, this day is their celebration day and the king's speech will give it strength as per John Kerry's statements. As far as God's calendar of events, his appointed times come with the beginning of summer and the beginning of winter. Nowhere in Scripture does God add spring or fall. So, when does summer begin and when does winter really begin should be the question. Jesus sets the perimeter of the harvest season in John, with the clarification that there are 4 months from wheat harvest to the harvest. Since the day of trumpets is associated with the end of harvest, this fits the agricultural cycle with the season ending in November/December and the final harvest of pomegranates complete to which the priests and Solomon's Temple were adorned. The confirming of the covenant of the parties is scheduled for December 11-12 with the parties and the strengthening of the agreement begins December 13th. This is described under the mechanism of the global stocktake that must take place and end after every 7 years. The final phase of this strengthening ahead of COP28 occurs from September 16th through December 12th. Since the implementation of the Paris Agreement in November of 2016, there has been 7 years completed come December 12th. The next cycle begins December 13th and continues for 2,550 days until the next "stocktake"....as that would occur at Armageddon, the tenth day after the new moon. Using the Hebrew calendar and the day count of the tribulation as being 2,550 days, one can match what is required of the lunar calendar, counting from the new moon to the 10th day after a new moon, 7 years apart, and using time and date . com determine the possibilities. There is no possible match of 2,550 days using the current Hillel calendar for the 2023 - 2030 timeline from September or thereafter, but using the Ur calendar (2100 BC) and the precise dates from the new moon, the match for the timeline is precise, from December 12th or 13th to December 5th, of 2030, the tenth day after a new moon, the precise amount of time is 2,550 days, the amount required to fulfill all the prophecies concerning the Tribulation. MARTY BREEDEN Not Decatur but December Thank you for your thoughts, Yohanan! Like I mentioned, we can always agree to disagree and I certainly don't mean to go against RITAN rules :negative: . I did want to clarify one thing though. That my opinion is not pre-wrath if I don't believe the tribulation starts until after the rapture. Just studying the first seals and what Revelation says about them. They don't mention any action taken. The 4 horseman that are released only have the power to do those things but it doesn't say this things actually happen. The restrainer is still keeping them in check until the rapture. At Seal 6, action starts to happen and we'll be gone right before. That's what I see but I did just want to clarify why I say I'm pre-trib and not pre-wrath. :rose: Also I forgot to add that my point is the importance of Ezekiel 38 and the possible timing of the rapture being so close. Gary Hamrick is in agreement with that line of thought too. Just for consideration... one section of Scripture I lean heavily on is 2 Thessalonians 2:3-8. If the first horseman is the antichrist as many think and the Restrainer is The Holy Spirit, particularly His ministry/dwelling through the Church, then there's no doubt we're out of here before the first seal.