Paul, I’ve always heard that it was the duck on the June bug, not the chicken. Although I will have to agree with what you said about Scriptural truths being revealed on a schedule. It does make sense that America would be incapacitated due to the Rapture and that would be a good explanation why she doesn’t come to Israel’s rescue. Support for Israel is still strong enough now to make pResident Biden help Israel as much as he has. But if it weren’t for the billions sent to Iran by O’Biden in the first place, Israel wouldn’t be in the predicament that it is in with Hamas, from what I can understand. I am so ready to get outta here; Im tired of all of the nonsense in the world. I am still holding out for December 12 when the 7 year agreement is signed. So perhaps any day now up until then. Not long to wait to see. I can’t wait to behold Him. Here, there, or in the air! Thanks Kent; I stand corrected. Talking of ducks, I wish you all a blessed Thanksgiving... ...but that's a turkey, right? 😉 LOL … It’s a bird … close enough … Instead of slave cooking a turkey … tomorrow I’m having Chicken Pot Pie. I recently discovered this brand … its the best I’ve ever tasted including all the restaurants. Nothing comes close to this. You can get it in the frozen section in most grocery stores … just 45 minutes in the oven and prepare for heavenly goodness … mmmmmm Hi all! It's been a while since I logged on so there are a lot of new faces :bye: (that's meant to be a "Hi" wave and not a "Bye" wave I have done quite a bit of digging into Revelation and Ezekiel lately and I have some thoughts that I would like to share if I may. I certainly don't claim to "know" but I do think it is good for us to question things that we have been taught for years rather than just accepting someone else's research as golden. And at the end of the day, if we disagree, we can just say we agree to disagree :heart: Joel - I have not read your article on Psalm 83 yet but I will. This is a BRIEF description of my thoughts: First – I don’t think that Psalms 83 is a war. There is nowhere in the scripture that it describes the action of war. It is a conspiring by Israel's enemies and it is a request to God for protection but it does not show ANY actual war. I believe the conspiring is what has been happening since Israel became a nation again. All the players in Psalm 83 have been involved in that at one time or another. I believe that the conspiring has led us to the events of today. I also believe that Israel heading toward Damascus, Iran or Hezbollah after they are done with Hamas will be the ‘hook in the jaw’ for Russia, Iran and Turkey (et al) to invade Israel (Ez 38). Next - I am absolutely convinced that the rapture is at the 6th seal (yes, I am preTrib! :yes: ). I don’t think first 5 seals are not part of the tribulation. I can give you more on my research on that if you are interested so I won't get into it now but there’s lots of reasons for that belief but one in particular is the skies rolling back.... that's rapture. If you're still with me - If you read the 6th seal, then read Ez 38:19-20, I believe it's describing the same event.... the rapture and the start of God's wrath - the tribulation. Now look at Ez 38:18 ... this will happen IN THAT DAY. That is the day of the invasion of Israel by Russia, Turkey and Iran. If I'm right, that means we're no longer looking for 'a day' - we're looking for an event. It sure does look like that event is getting close to happening. My eyes are on Israel, Iran, Turkey and Russia. It may take a while for things to unfold and that hook to be set but we are so close! :flyup: :flyup: :flyup: Hi NoFearJustFaith, Glad to see you back. A couple of comments on your post. You said I am absolutely convinced that the rapture is at the 6th seal (yes, I am preTrib! ). But this is not a pre-trib view, it is actually what is called a pre-wrath view. A pre-trib view believes the Church will be raptured before the first Seal is broken. The first Seal is the appearance of the Rider on the White Horse who conquers and is bent on conquering and is considered by many to be the Antichrist. That has not happened yet. The second Seal is the Red Horse, war breaking out all over the globe. Peace is taken away. While there is war currently going on, there has always been war except for about 200 years of human history so what we are currently seeing is not a ringer for the second Seal. There is still peace in many places even though we are seeing a great rise in unrest around the globe. The third Seal is Black Horse and that is death from famine cause by war. The fourth Seal is the Pale Horse where a quarter of the worlds population is killed by war, famine, and wild beasts. That has not happened either. The seven Seals and seven Trumpets all take place before the midpoint of the tribulation. After the Abomination the Great Tribulation begins and God's wrath is poured out. It will be the worst time in human history. But none of this has happened yet because the first Seal has not been broken yet. The Rider on the White Horse has not taken the world stage yet. Given that the Book of Revelation never mentions the Church again just prior to the opening of the first Seal we here at Rita believe the Church will be raptured before any of the judgments begin.
