"Christians in name only (CINO)"... Dominionists/New Apostolic Reformation types... Hmmm... Misled / mistaken / deceived Christians are not automatically lost, e.g., if they confess with their mouths that Jesus is Lord and believe in their hearts that God raised Him from the dead... Y'all know the rest of the verse... There are "umpteens" of Christians, i.e., believers who possess a distorted expectation of the end times, who rightly reject New Age denials of Jesus Christ's supremacy, yet they're connected even at high levels of world power (VP Pence and other administration personnel), who agree with Q principles, expectations and purposes. Such souls will happily disappear soon along with us. Our agreement with Q ideals or not will at best remain an unreliable litmus test of someone's beliefs, and may not be worth our time here trying to sort these questions out. Someone's having been Raptured will be an infallible litmus test, but at that point unnecessary. Many Q and anti Q devotees alike will discover, after we're gone, the truth of the Gospel; but then confessing it with their mouth and believing it in their heart will be the same as signing one's own death warrant. Things in many venues may well become so bad that death would be a relief... Maybe let's agree here about these Q questions and implications: Let not your heart be troubled... Blessed are the peacemakers... Well said! I don't always agree with what the Lord does or doesn't do! That said, He is still my first love! TR For sure, Dan. Not all dominionists are unsaved. Some are just plain deceived. However, the whole movement is not of God and it was created by haters of God to usher in the Antichrist. Working out our own salvation is to nurture what the Lord finds pleasing in each of us! TR I wanted to briefly reply to you, MyWhiteStone. I would've earlier, but I was at work. Seems like we've come to a resolution concerning Q, since then. Which works for me. I love and respect JD, and I was not looking forward to what may have come across as me dissecting his sermon. I will just say and leave it at this, the main problem that I had to what he was saying, is that it all appeared to be an over reaction and a great deal of speculation. To connect that map with Q, would be like attending a KKK meeting and seeing a cross there, and then condemning Christianity because some group who we know to be evil beyond a shadow of a doubt, decides to use a cross. Many examples of that. (and may think they can justify it. Meanwhile actual Christians are like :unsure: "Not us." I researched that map a little bit, and the artist who created it. Very disturbing. That map is evil, and ties into many of the groups and organizations that have an anti Christ spirit and are demonic. Is this merely guilt by association? I don't know. After listening to everything JD said, I still don't. Kinda wish he would've nailed it down for me. But then again, moving on. 
