Watchman35, I love JD but he did not do his homework on this one. While I'm on the fence about Q, tying Q in with the Occult and New agers was 100% wrong. The occult and New agers (and others) are riding on the popularity of Q, selling stuff, asking for donations while espousing their hokey pokey. Q has made it clear from the beginning he posts NOTHING outside 8 chan and doesn't sell stuff or ask for money. So...the websites Pastor JD spoke of, Q has nothing to do with. :good: Knowing next to nothing about Q anon, I listened to JD (whom I love) with a completely open mind. In my humble opinion, he did NOT make a very strong case against Q anon. I was actually a little let down by his presentation. To ME, he seemed to really be taking some liberties and making maybe not so obvious connections. Just going by his message and what he was putting out there, he seemed pretty far off. Again, I watched with an unbiassed open mind. Isn't that something, that so many of us can listen to the same thing and draw different conclusions? :scratch: Chondra and Brad, I'm not advocating or condemning QAnon, but please go back into JD's video starting at about 39:00, say for its next ten minutes, and if you would please cite time stamps on the video that are amiss. Chondra, would you ascertain that, except for coincidentlally sharing the same first letter, there is no relationship between QAnon and the QMAP and its explanation that JD Farag featured in the video? Brad, could you elaborate on what points he was making where JD's points seemed pretty far off? And both of you, what do you suspect JD's main point mentioning the E511 ministry was in highlighting it in that ten minutes of his sermon? I'm not trying to be contrary, but as I posted here separately, I think there's substance in his suggestion that the deceived New Age expectations that mankind will soon bring in an enlightened Age of Aquarius kind of future is widely believed. Yes, that's what the New Age thinks, but JD asserts as we pre-tribulation all do, that it's not how the peaceful new world is going to happen. To me, the message being suggested by JD and E511 Ministries is 1) Satan has set up the abusive Luciferian NWO Harlot that the masses really hate, a Hegelian theses, 2) and he has also set up the New Age movement, a Hegelian antithesis subscribed to by deluded New Age devotees, in order that he may finally bring in 3) his global worship, the intended Hegelian syntheses / desired result. Satan deceptively promoting and following such a diabolic plan makes great sense to me. The biggest reason I believe QAnon is wrong is because it sounds too much like the Kingdom Now movement. Everything going on in the world points to the end of the Church Age and yet QAnon is 180 degrees contrary to that. The USA will rise stronger than before, all the bad guys and child molesters will be incarcerated, US debt cancelled. Sounds so Utopian, which is totally contrary to the signs of the time. Utopia begins when Christ's Millennial reign begins and not one moment sooner. Indeed. Trump is supposedly surrounded by Christians but most are Dominionists/New Apostolic Reformation types. (Ie CINOs) Makes sense that QAnon is closely tied in with that. It is all leading towards a fake millennial kingdom lead by the Antichrist. A new age of peace and love, they'll say. I wonder if the mark will actually be the satanic peace symbol?
