I get what you mean. A person should display fruits of the spirit. I agree 100%. The poster said that they need to bear fruit of repentance. That seems to conflate with the false teaching that you must repent of every sin you commit or else you are not a true Christian. It ends up being a backdoor works based salvation. This is very similar to the Calvinist false teaching of the perseverance of the saints. (Preservation of the saints is the correct biblical teaching.) Everyone grows in their Christian walk at a different pace. Some quickly and some very slowly. Anyway, the only requirement for the Rapture is being born again. Once justified, always justified. The insinuation is that if you have a bad day and do not repent properly of your manifold sins, you are in big trouble and in danger of missing the Rapture. That's absolute false teaching. Repentance in Greek is Metanoia which means a change of mind. You need to change your mind who Jesus is and your current state of affairs. In other words, Jesus is the only Saviour and that you are a sinner in need of salvation. The Book of Romans should be read by more Christians, than all those false doctrines would be eliminated! Faith is what pleases Yahweh the most! As in Romans Chapter 4. Faith in Jesus that is! My two sense — I have met many individuals who “back slide” from their walk with Christ … they had repentant hearts and I truly believe that God is a God of Mercy and forgives. I also have walked a road that I am not proud of, but God was merciful to me, lifted me out of the darkness. I love Him more today than ever and my heart remains repentant as I choose to walk close to Him, feeding the spirit, doing what he calls me to do. Life is a daily struggle as we war not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the prince of this world, and spiritual forces of evil ….. putting on the whole armor of God daily is key to staying faithful. I do not hold to a works salvation, I believe you get all the Holy Spirit you will ever need at salvation, it is up to your will to allow Him to live through you. It is true that our salvation is a progressive living act, but that is because of our own lack of surrendering our will to His. As to the fruits of the spirit — Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, Self-control — these are not always manifested consistently, in everyone, at every moment…. To prove this, just get in your car and drive down a very busy highway, during rush hour and watch what happens if you slow down to do the speed limit — how many folks will cut you off, honk at you, ride your bumper, and shout obscenities at you as they fly past you, how do you feel? Or if you are ever in a hurry to get somewhere and hit every red light or get behind that Sunday driver, how is your attitude? It has always amazed me the individuals who claim to have the fruits of the spirit and boast about it — are they exhibiting a humble, loving, and meek heart? :unsure: I will be the first to say I am not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, nor are the fruits of the Spirit exhibited daily, but I love my Jesus for what He did for me and pray that God allows me to be used by Him for His work until that trumpet sounds …. :prayer-hands: Arthur, I mean no disrespect but you are again spreading misinformation about Peter Ruckman and Robert Breaker. In this case, you are also concluding NTEB advocates forgiveness post- MOTB. In all cases, not one of these teachers believes that and all have refuted the notion...many times. In fact, all have rebuked those like John MacArthur with a contrary stance. Read Peter Ruckman's "Mark of the Beast" book for more detail. I agree that the sanctification process (spiritual growth) takes time and some people mature faster than others. What I find strange is when someone says when they got saved they experienced no difference. Nothing … no emotion … not even joy of knowing they were now heaven bound? I just find that very odd … and is it a coincidence some of these same people also struggle with “once saved always saved”? And this one person in particular I saw responded to this question “One Word Definition of You” … and he said “lost”. The poor guy is crying out and get this … only 2 people used the praying symbol and the other 6 people picked the thumbs up “like” button. Crazy eh? Do they think he is just “joking”? Even King David said “Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free Spirit.” Even David had the joy of the Lord and wanted it back. My cousin came across a drunkard in the streets and he was begging for money. My cousin said I can’t give you money but I can share with you this … and gave him the Gospel. That drunkard got saved and he was immediately no longer in a drunkard state and in his right mind. Talk about a transformation. ok .. stepping down off the soapbox … 
