@Arthur, yes, Pentecost also is a very viable candidate and I have always wondered if there is some future fulfillment since Jesus was present at Passover, Unleavened bread and Firstfruits (resurection day) but was long gone 10 days before Pentecost so I wonder if it was not fully fulfilled on the basis that He was not there and the feasts are all about Him (although obviously the Holy Spirit came on that day) so that is another head scratcher and also has a lot of merit. @Tender Reed, I think you confused my two trains of thought in my last post. The 4 day reference was if we are at Abib 10 today on the Dead Sea scrolls calendar, Passover would be 4 days from now. But what I started out suggesting was that if creation happened on Abib 1, then perhaps man fell into sin 14 days later (not 4) on Abib 14 which would one day become Passover. Technically this would be day 8 for man since he was created on the 6th day. 8 isn’t a very long time to fall into sin either, but man is but of a few days and full of trouble lol. 8 is also the number for new beginnings, but new beginnings does not necessarily mean always good beginnings - this could have been a new beginning that wasn’t so good, the fall into sin. All of this is of course speculative and I wouldn’t dare to be dogmatic about any of it. I have heard others who have suggested the 7 years free of sin as you mentioned, but here is my logic why I think it was a relatively short time, probably less than a month - and I can’t take credit for this,I heard this from someone else ( I can’t remember who) but it made a lot of sense to me. So we know a woman’s fertility cycle is monthly - we can start with that. When God created man and woman He told them to be fruitful and multiply, that is also established. In a perfect sinless state, there would be no reason for Eve to be barren, and in fact obviously God’s will was for them to multiply, so to say they were sinless anything more than a month would beg the question - why didn’t Eve conceive a child in that period? I doubt they were being celibate, they would have no reason to especially when told by God to multiply. So how could they have gone 7 years without producing children? Again, I would argue that they probably would have conceived their first child in the first month of creation in a sinless state so it leads me to think it was a relatively short time that elapsed before they fell into sin since they did not conceive a child until after they fell into sin. Anyway, again, I couldn’t be dogmatic, just my line of reasoning behind it. Sorry for my confusion! All interesting little details we shall know when we see him! No doubt sin doesn't take long to manifest! Wonder how long it took Lucifer and the angels?! TR TR said “No doubt sin doesn’t take long to manifest! Wonder how long it took Lucifer and the angels?!” I guess there’s no way of knowing but why do I feel like they held out longer than we did?!? I guess I hold a pretty low opinion of mankind lol. Good thing I am not God because I don’t know what He sees in us most of the time - but praise Him, praise Him, praise Him for His Amazing Grace!!! Speaking about the fallen angels … 1/3 fell … someone pointed out that was 33% … coincidence masons highest level is 33 degrees? We are a sorry lot indeed! I also feel the same way! Thankful for His love and His patience! Indeed, we and the Angel's fall way short of His perfection and glory! I guess that's what makes relationships so difficult! Again, though He loves us all, I'm still His favorite! TR
