A Chance for 24 More Days Max -- An Excerpt

Delay is such a dirty word!  Many calculated dates for Oct!  Did I tell you Lord, I don't wanna be here anymore@!  TR

Nice find, Dan!    This is music to my ears with the possibility of  Oct 25th/26th as the start date the tribulation begins??!

I said this on another thread … I’m curious of when the U.N. peace and safety 2 state solution contract will be announced.   What are they waiting for?   I was thinking it might be tied in  with the  Abrahamic Worship House Grand Opening Celebration … 11 weeks or less left. But perhaps they will announce the dividing of Jerusalem contract before the Abrahamic House on Oct 25th / 26th then its the church’s GREAT escape … the Lord does says to be watchful and alert (sober) for it in this passage below. :popcorn

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I Thess 5

2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

Well well well … I just googled what happened in Jewish history on October 26th and this is what occurred …. So perhaps the U.N. will announce the 2 state agreement document on October 26th? :mail:

Under Bill Clinton Presidency …

Israel-Jordan Peace Negotiations: Israel-Jordan Treaty of Peace
(October 26, 1994)

PREAMBLE
The Government of the State of Israel and the Government of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan:

Bearing in mind the Washington Declaration, signed by them on 25th July, 1994, and which they are both committed to honour;

Aiming at the achievement of a just, lasting and comprehensive peace in the Middle East based an Security Council resolutions 242 and 338 in all their aspects;

Bearing in mind the importance of maintaining and strengthening peace based on freedom, equality, justice and respect for fundamental human rights, thereby overcoming psychological barriers and promoting human dignity;

Reaffirming their faith in the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations and recognising their right and obligation to live in peace with each other as well as with all states, within secure and recognised boundaries;

Desiring to develop friendly relations and co-operation between them in accordance with the principles of international law governing international relations in time of peace;

Desiring as well to ensure lasting security for both their States and in particular to avoid threats and the use of force between them;

Bearing in mind that in their Washington Declaration of 25th July, 1994, they declared the termination of the state of belligerency between them;

Deciding to establish peace between them in accordance with this Treaty of Peace;

Have agreed as follows:
ARTICLE 1
ESTABLISHMENT OF PEACE

Peace is hereby established between the State of Israel and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan (the "Parties") effective from the exchange of the instruments of ratification of this Treaty.

ARTICLE 2
GENERAL PRINCIPLES

The Parties will apply between them the provisions of the Charter of the United Nations and the principles of international law governing relations among states in times of peace. In particular:

They recognise and will respect each other's sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence;

They recognise and will respect each other's right to live in peace within secure and recognised boundaries;

They will develop good neighbourly relations of co-operation between them to ensure lasting security, will refrain from the threat or use of force against each other and will settle all disputes between them by peaceful means;

They respect and recognise the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every state in the region;

They respect and recognise the pivotal role of human development and dignity in regional and bilateral relationships;

They further believe that within their control, involuntary movements of persons in such a way as to adversely prejudice the security of either Party should not be permitted.

ARTICLE 3
INTERNATIONAL BOUNDARY

The international boundary between Israel and Jordan is delimited with reference to the boundary definition under the Mandate as is shown in Annex I (a), on the mapping materials attached thereto and co-ordinates specified therein.

The boundary, as set out in Annex I (a), is the permanent, secure and recognised international boundary between Israel and Jordan, without prejudice to the status of any territories that came under Israeli military government control in 1967.

The parties recognise the international boundary, as well as each other's territory, territorial waters and airspace, as inviolable, and will respect and comply with them.

The demarcation of the boundary will take place as set forth in Appendix (I) to Annex I and will be concluded not later than nine months after the signing of the Treaty.

It is agreed that where the boundary follows a river, in the event of natural changes in the course of the flow of the river as described in Annex I (a), the boundary shall follow the new course of the flow. In the event of any other changes the boundary shall not be affected unless otherwise agreed.

Immediately upon the exchange of the instruments of ratification of this Treaty, each Party will deploy on its side of the international boundary as defined in Annex I (a).

The Parties shall, upon the signature of the Treaty, enter into negotiations to conclude, within 9 months, an agreement on the delimitation of their maritime boundary in the Gulf of Aqaba.

Taking into account the special circumstances of the Naharayim/Baqura area, which is under Jordanian sovereignty, with Israeli private ownership rights, the Parties agreed to apply the provisions set out in Annex I (b).

With respect to the Zofar/Al-Ghamr area, the provisions set out in Annex I (c) will apply.

ARTICLE 4
SECURITY
Both Parties, acknowledging that mutual understanding and co-operation in security-related matters will form a significant part of their relations and will further enhance the security of the region, take upon themselves to base their security relations on mutual trust, advancement of joint interests and co- operation, and to aim towards a regional framework of partnership in peace.

Towards that goal the Parties recognise the achievements of the European Community and European Union in the development of the Conference on Security and Co-operation in Europe (CSCE) and commit themselves to the creation, in the Middle East, of a CSCME (Conference on Security and Co-operation in the Middle East).
This commitment entails the adoption of regional models of security successfully implemented in the post World War era (along the lines of the Helsinki process) culminating in a regional zone of security and stability.

The obligations referred to in this Article are without prejudice to the inherent right of self-defence in accordance with the United Nations Charter.

The Parties undertake, in accordance with the provisions of this Article, the following:

to refrain from the threat or use of force or weapons, conventional, non-conventional or of any other kind, against each other, or of other actions or activities that adversely affect the security of the other Party;

to refrain from organising, instigating, inciting, assisting or participating in acts or threats of belligerency, hostility, subversion or violence against the other Party;

to take necessary and effective measures to ensure that acts or threats of belligerency, hostility, subversion or violence against the other Party do not originate from, and are not committed within, through or over their territory (hereinafter the term "territory" includes the airspace and territorial waters).

Consistent with the era of peace and with the efforts to build regional security and to avoid and prevent aggression and violence, the Parties further agree to refrain from the following:

joining or in any way assisting, promoting or co-operating with any coalition, organisation or alliance with a military or security character with a third party, the objectives or activities of which include launching aggression or other acts of military hostility against the other Party, in contravention of the provisions of the present Treaty.

allowing the entry, stationing and operating on their territory, or through it, of military forces, personnel or materiel of a third party, in circumstances which may adversely prejudice the security of the other Party.

Both Parties will take necessary and effective measures, and will co-operate in combating terrorism of all kinds. The Parties undertake:

to take necessary and effective measures to prevent acts of terrorism, subversion or violence from being carried out from their territory or through it and to take necessary and effective measures to combat such activities and all their perpetrators.

without prejudice to the basic rights of freedom of expression and association, to take necessary and effective measures to prevent the entry, presence and co-operation in their territory of any group or organisation, and their infrastructure, which threatens the security of the other Party by the use of or incitement to the use of, violent means.

to co-operate in preventing and combating cross-boundary infiltrations.

Any question as to the implementation of this Article will be dealt with through a mechanism of consultations which will include a liaison system, verification, supervision, and where necessary, other mechanisms, and higher level consultation. The details of the mechanism of consultations will be contained in an agreement to be concluded by the Parties within 3 months of the exchange of the instruments of ratification of this Treaty.

The Parties undertake to work as a matter of priority, and as soon as possible in the context of the Multilateral Working Group on Arms Control and Regional Security, and jointly, towards the following:

the creation in the Middle East of a region free from hostile alliances and coalitions;

the creation of a Middle East free from weapons of mass destruction, both conventional and non- conventional, in the context of a comprehensive, lasting and stable peace, characterised by the renunciation of the use of force, reconciliation and goodwill.

ARTICLE 5
DIPLOMATIC AND OTHER BILATERAL RELATIONS

The Parties agree to establish full diplomatic and consular relations and to exchange resident ambassadors within one month of the exchange of the instruments of ratification of this Treaty.

The Parties agree that the normal relationship between them will further include economic and cultural relations.

ARTICLE 6
WATER

With the view to achieving a comprehensive and lasting settlement of all the water problems between them:

The Parties agree mutually to recognise the rightful allocations of both of them in Jordan River and Yarmouk River waters and Araba/Arava ground water in accordance with the agreed acceptable principles, quantities and quality as set out in Annex II , which shall be fully respected and complied with.

The Parties, recognising the necessity to find a practical, just and agreed solution to their water problems and with the view that the subject of water can form the basis for the advancement of co- operation between them, jointly undertake to ensure that the management and development of their water resources do not, in any way, harm the water resources of the other Party.

The Parties recognise that their water resources are not sufficient to meet their needs. More water should be supplied for their use through various methods, including projects of regional and international co-operation.

In light of paragraph 3 of this Article, with the understanding that co-operation in water-related subjects would be to the benefit of both Parties, and will help alleviate their water shortages, and that water issues along their entire boundary must be dealt with in their totality, including the possibility of trans-boundary water transfers, the Parties agree to search for ways to alleviate water shortage and to co- operate in the following fields:

development of existing and new water resources, increasing the water availability including co- operation on a regional basis as appropriate, and minimising wastage of water resources through the chain of their uses;

prevention of contamination of water resources;

mutual assistance in the alleviation of water shortages;

transfer of information and joint research and development in water-related subjects, and review of the potentials for enhancement of water resources development and use.

The implementation of both Parties' undertakings under this Article is detailed in Annex II.

ARTICLE 7
ECONOMIC RELATIONS

Viewing economic development and prosperity as pillars of peace, security and harmonious relations between states, peoples and individual human beings, the Parties, taking note of understandings reached between them, affirm their mutual desire to promote economic co-operation between them, as well as within the framework of wider regional economic co-operation.

In order to accomplish this goal, the Parties agree to the following:

to remove all discriminatory barriers to normal economic relations, to terminate economic boycotts directed at each other, and to co-operate in terminating boycotts against either Party by third parties;

recognising that the principle of free and unimpeded flow of goods and services should guide their relations, the Parties will enter into negotiations with a view to concluding agreements on economic co- operation, including trade and the establishment of a free trade area, investment, banking, industrial co- operation and labour, for the purpose of promoting beneficial economic relations, based on principles to be agreed upon, as well as on human development considerations on a regional basis. These negotiations will be concluded no later than 6 months from the exchange the instruments of ratification of this Treaty.

to co-operate bilaterally, as well as in multilateral forums, towards the promotion of their respective economies and of their neighbourly economic relations with other regional parties.

ARTICLE 8
REFUGEES AND DISPLACED PERSONS

Recognising the massive human problems caused to both Parties by the conflict in the Middle East, as well as the contribution made by them towards the alleviation of human suffering, the Parties will seek to further alleviate those problems arising on a bilateral level.

Recognising that the above human problems caused by the conflict in the Middle East cannot be fully resolved on the bilateral level, the Parties will seek to resolve them in appropriate forums, in accordance with international law, including the following:

in the case of displaced persons, in a quadripartite committee together with Egypt and the Palestinians:

in the case of refugees,

in the framework of the Multilateral Working Group on Refugees;

in negotiations, in a framework to be agreed, bilateral or otherwise, in conjunction with and at the same time as the permanent status negotiations pertaining to the territories referred to in Article 3 of this Treaty;

through the implementation of agreed United Nations programmes and other agreed international economic programmes concerning refugees and displaced persons, including assistance to their settlement …..

(there’s a lot more … but you get the picture)

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28 years to the day ---> Israel / Jordan covenant made firmer...?!?!

Wow!  Great find, Geri!!   Could be! :good: :yes: :popcorn   Thanks!

I had also calculated that 2520 days of the Trib landed on a starting date of 26th October this year, when considering that maybe the Second Coming would happen on Yom Kippur on 2929 - this was before FOT this year came and went without the Rapture. So afterwards, that left me with the question - what could be the fulfillment, then, of Feast Of Trumpets? I thought of the prophecy about Israel suddenly having their eyes opened about the identity of their true Messiah Who died for them, not long before the Second Coming, and they will mourn the One Who they pierced.

Zechariah 12:10-14 -

"10Then I will pour out on the house of David and on the people of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and prayer, and they will look on Me, the One they have pierced. They will mourn for Him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for Him as one grieves for a firstborn son.

11On that day the wailing in Jerusalem will be as great as the wailing of Hadad-rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. 12The land will mourn, each clan on its own: the clan of the house of David and their wives, the clan of the house of Nathan and their wives, 13the clan of the house of Levi and their wives, the clan of Shimei and their wives, 14and all the remaining clans and their wives."

This happens as the world's nations gather against Jerusalem -

"3On that day, when all the nations of the earth gather against her, I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples; all who would heave it away will be severely injured."

So we know this happens close to the Second Coming. Could the fulfillment of FOT possibly be the opening of Israel's eyes to their Messiah and turning to Him in repentance?

Someone posted this on the RITAN facebook group:

FEAST OF TRUMPETS is Repentance

FEAST OF YOM KIPPUR is Redemption

FEAST OF TABERNACLES is Rejoicing

Since the Feasts are primarily about Israel, as many claim, that could be a plausible scenario.

Shemini Atzeret (Tishrei 22) 2022 + 2520 days (7 years X 12 months X 30 days) = Rosh Hashanah 2029 - The 2nd Coming

According to Rosh Hashanah And The 2nd Coming – Grace thru faith "the Lord will likely return on Rosh Hashanah".

"And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the Lord.  On the first day shall be a holy convocation:  ye shall do no servile work therein. Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord:  on the eighth day shall be a holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord:  it is a solemn assembly; and ye shall do no servile work therein".   Leviticus 23: Verses 33 - 36

"Also, in the day of your gladness, and in your solemn days, and in the beginnings of your months, ye shall blow with the trumpets over your burnt offerings, and over the sacrifices of your peace offerings; that they may be to you for a memorial before your God:  I am the Lord your God".   Numbers 10: Verse 10

Nisan 1 begins the ecclesiastical year and Tishri 1 begins the civil. But the correspondence doesn't end there.  On Nisan 10 The Lamb was inspected and on Tishri 10 the second set of tablets was given to the children of Israel (Yom Kippur).  Nisan 15 - 21 Passover is celebrated and Tishri 15 - 21 Sukkot is celebrated, both commencing on the full moon.

The spring feasts are a time of expansion and growth culminating seven weeks later on Shavuot, Sivan 6.  It was on Shavuot that the first set of tablets was given to the children of Israel.  These were smashed by Moses though on Tammuz 17 because of worshipping the golden calf.

But the fall feasts herald a period of contraction known as the rainy season.  So instead of a feast 7 weeks and a day after Sukkot the feast is 7 days and a day after Sukkot.  Read what the Rabbis have to say about this day:

From http://www.ou.org/chagim/shmini-simchat/realatzeret.ht m" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here we get a deeper insight into Shmini Atzeret:

"The name "Atzeret" is actually used most in the Talmud to refer to the holiday of Shavuot.  Shavuot can be seen as the "completion" of Pesach - for Pesach, commemorating the Exodus, represents our "physical" birth as a nation, while Shavuot, commemorating our receiving of the Torah, represents our "spiritual" birth...

Shmini Atzeret should really have been placed seven weeks after Sukkot as Shavuot, the "closure" of Pesach, follows it by seven weeks, but, according to the Midrash, Hashem had mercy on the Jewish People.  For Pesach is in the Spring and Shavuot is in the Summer, both pleasant times for travel (these holidays are all "Regalim," Pilgrim Festivals, on which Jewish males are obligated to travel to the Temple in Yerushalayim), but seven weeks after Sukkot would already be into the rainy season in Israel, and travel would not be pleasant then. Therefore, Hashem allowed the closure of Sukkot, Shmini Atzeret, to be celebrated right after Sukkot."

Shmini Atzeret is to Tabernacles as Pentecost is to Passover. Sivan 6 is neither a full moon nor a new moon and so the same for Tishri 22.  The Leviticus verses quoted above indicate that Shmini Atzeret is a holy day in its own right and the quote from Numbers indicates that trumps are blown on all the holy days.  So, since Shmini Atzeret is the last holy day till spring the last trump is blown on that day.

"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." 1 Corinthians 15:51-52, KJV

A Shmini Atzeret Rapture would be October 17, 2022.

All the Best,
Mike P

Hi Mike! Welcome to the group.

Hi Yohanan - Thanks for the Welcome!

I'll be looking for the 17th as well as the 7th!  TR