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I have never believed that non-believers will here that trumpet.  Given that the dead in Christ rise first, and an earthquake opens their graves, perhaps this will happen 3 days prior to our departure?!  TR


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Yeah Tammie, 96 kg is my target weight.  My current weight is ... (I don't want to say, and please, nobody go fission for the answer.)  I suppose "bust a gut" will be the most apt description for what's going to happen to me at the Rapture.  :yes: :yes: :whistle:


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TR,

Non-believers won't hear the trumpet. Anyway, few years ago I have shared my thought on Luke 17:22-37 in which verse 30 is rapture when the Son of man is revealed to the world. The world knows that Jesus is the architect of rapture when they see millions of people disappear. This is how Jesus is revealed to the world in that day.

Verse 31 is Jesus hurrying us to get ready for rapture, by not getting back to our house and take the belongings with us. That belongings are our loved ones who cannot make it to rapture. To some Christians, knowing rapture is near, they are glad to go with Jesus. Some Christians love their sons and daughters. This emotion hinders them , a bit hesitant to go. This is why Jesus says in following verse "Remember Lot's wife", because she missed the things in the world and looked back. Jesus uses Lot's wife as an example and tells us not to look back to the world like she did. Jesus further describes the details, "in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. 35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left." This is exactly how rapture shall happen. And Jesus concludes his statement by comparing us taken into the air to "Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.". The "body" is Greek word soma which means a live body, a flesh. These live bodies (us) shall be gathered  together like the eagles are gathered in the air.


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Let me finish the sermon Jesus gave to Pharisees, concerning the kingdom of God in Luke 17. The whole sermon is described in a backward manner. Pharisees want to know when the kingdom of God should come. Jesus said to the disciples " look, the days (days in tribulation ) will come, when you shall desire to see one of days with me, but you shall not see it. For as the lightning out form one part of heaven, shines to other part of heaven, so shall my coming will be. But first son of man has to be rejected by this generation"

Jesus didn't give much details regarding the events in tribulation in this sermon. He saved it and gave the details in Mount Olivert Discourse later on. He then went on to describe a spectacular event, that is, the rapture.

Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

This is how the world is when rapture happens. They eat, drink, giving in marriage, not knowing the sudden destruction/rapture shall come upon them, like travail to a woman.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

I have already explained this verse, the Son of man is revealed to the world during the event rapture.

31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back. 32 Remember Lot's wife

I have already elaborated on this verse. Jesus tells us not to look back at our earthly belongings which include our loved ones. It seems there is a time lapse between our sensing rapture is near and the final trumpet call. This time lapse triggers our thought of our loved ones who are going to be left behind. How much is time lapse? I don't know. It can be hours, a day, or three days. I suspect we hear some roaming noise, see some atmospheric change, or some spectacular phenomenon, which stir up our spirit, before the final trumpet call.


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When I suggest Jesus gave the sermon in Luke 17 in a backward manner, it is because Pharisees wanted to know when the kingdom of God/ the millennium kingdom should come. Instead of telling Pharisees when the kingdom of God should arrive, Jesus replied by foretelling the events which precede the kingdom of God/ the millennium kingdom. Jesus starts with verse 22, by saying these to the disciples " Look, the days (days in tribulation ) will come, when you shall desire to see one of days with me, but you shall not see it. For as the lightning out form one part of heaven, shines to other part of heaven, so shall my coming will be. But first, Son of man has to be rejected by this generation”

Jesus then went on to foretell a spectacular event the rapture which precedes the tribulation, from verse 26 to 37.

In summery, Kingdom of God will not come until there is a tribulation first. Tribulation cannot come until rapture happens first.


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