After reading more after clicking on that link, it definitely is a Pre-Wrath website. Just for your information, forum posting rules do not allow for this. This is a Pre-Trib website only. (dogg one- i didn't look at link & it's nice of you to want to share, but to clarify, i think...if i remember/understand correctly...pre-wrath vs pre-trib is cuz they say wrath is only after first half of trib, but actually the whole Tribulation period involves God's wrath poured out on unrepentant evil and involves a progression of intensity in hopes that man will repent and turn to Him humbly with godly sorrow and be rescued from their sin and it's consequences of hell...it's all a period of Jacob's Trouble i think it's called in OT...you'd have to look into for more accurate info on the differences etc.) Hello Dogg One and Arthur, and also gratefulforgrace (below), I could technically remove the post or delete the link but in the interest of honest and open fellowship and expression of views on RITA Now and censorship ability and abuse being what it is globally, let me say two things. 1 - Dogg One may have misread even the title of the link. So I would like to encourage him as Arthur did, to say what he truly believes. 2 - Fellowship and unity here are more important than risking some unsuspecting seeker / lurker from being led astray by a pre-wrath doctrine for which this forum has no acceptance. The pre-trib ground rule we have, I suppose and if so I agree with, was codified to avoid the adverse negativity. So let's dialogue a bit more. Okay? i guess my actual point i didn't explain well was that in line with this thread "when we think not", anything other than pre-Trib would not fit...if Rapture was in middle of Trib, anyone could know when it would be once the AC was revealed and confirming the peace treaty to start the Tribulation period of 7 years (isn't it actually a little less cuz God shortens it?) so you'd look for the 3 1/2 year point...if Rapture was end of the Trib you'd wait for the end of the 7 years and know right when that is...pre-Trib you can't know exact time, only you can see Trib stuff building on the horizon...in the making...around the corner...coming....so you can know it's the season, getting close...unless God causes a skidding hault and u-turn, it's like you can almost taste the Rapture it's so close...but the Rapture's exact time we can't know for certain and if most Christians are looking for it to be in the middle or end of the Tribulation or not at all, then a Pre-Trib Rapture - no matter when it is- will be when most Christians think not! clear as mud, maybe...that's why i say research it for anyone wanting to understand differences and yes, pre-trib vs pre-wrath i think i actually used to think were the same becuz i hadn't read about pre-wrath and had just gone by the name and already knew that the Trib is all going to include the Lord's wrath & that's a huge reason why we know we won't be here for it becuz Jesus took the wrath we deserve for us and since we accepted His offer of pardon we are declared not guilty and set free from the punishment that was due us- the wages of our sins- death (separation from God eternally and dead spiritually) Thanks, Gratefulforgrace. Here is an excellent article on the subject from Rapture Ready:
Yes, as Pre-Trib believers, we are definitely pre-wrath. It is clear that whole Tribulation is the wrath of God.
We reject the 3/4ers through the Tribulation "pre-wrath" Rapture as put forth by Robert Van Campen a few decades ago.
