Wayne Fowler who had a NDE

I don't know who he is, but I am hoping too!

Any more info or details?!  Hopefully this weekend!!!  That would be glorious indeed!  TR

I listened to one full (loooong) video interview and part of another with this guy and the titles of the interviews are very deceiving. Jesus or God did not talk with him about the rapture. After his NDE, he studied about the rapture and a very short part of the interviews are him telling what he has gotten from the Bible in his studies about the rapture. Part of which includes that there is going to be more than one rapture and that if you believe in a mid trib rapture you will be raptured mid trib. His story of his NDE was amazing but it bothers me that his story is headlined with deceit in addition to his belief of multiple raptures depending on your belief.

Thanks for that insight, NFJF! According to Wayne Fowler I get what I believe. So I guess I’ll be raptured today! 😁

Right! Let's all believe in today! :yahoo:

I also heard someone else claim that there would be multiple raptures!  I think that what they mean to say is that there are multiple resurrections!  TR

Gary Stearman has an article about 7 raptures … but only 1 for the church there is no partial raptures for the church.  Because the article is very long … I’m only posting the details about “Moses being raptured”  I thought it was VERY interesting because Moses didn’t die of any ailments … God took him home … it does say God buried him but we know his body wasn’t in the grave for long no time for it to decay.  Michael the Arch Angel was assigned to bring his body up to heaven … so technically Moses didn’t die a natural death.

And he makes a strong case the “Old Testament Saints” were also raptured. So perhaps they already have their new glorified bodies in heaven?

Enoch, the First Raptured

Moses, the Second Raptured

He lived to be a hundred and twenty years of age, and his life was divided into thirds, each lasting forty years. First, he was a political and military leader in Egypt. During the next period, he lived in the deserts of Midian, as a shepherd. At the age of eighty, he was sent before Pharaoh to deliver his people. Forty difficult years followed, as he struggled to establish a spiritual Israel.

Egypt is a type of the world system, which, because of sin, is rooted in a structure of idolatry. In a way, the world that Moses confronted, closely resembled Enoch’s debased society. The Lord placed both men into the world during critical times in history.

And like Enoch, Moses’ last days on earth were highly unusual. In fact, one can make the case that he, too, was taken to heaven alive. Exodus 34 describes his death, following his blessing of the tribes. He ascended Mount Nebo, where he viewed the Promised Land:

“And Moses went up from the plains of Moab unto the mountain of Nebo, to the top of Pisgah, that is over against Jericho. And the LORD shewed him all the land of Gilead, unto Dan,

“And all Naphtali, and the land of Ephraim, and Manasseh, and all the land of Judah, unto the utmost sea,

“And the south, and the plain of the valley of Jericho, the city of palm trees, unto Zoar.

“And the LORD said unto him, This is the land which I sware unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, saying, I will give it unto thy seed: I have caused thee to see it with thine eyes, but thou shalt not go over thither”(Deut. 34:1-4).

Here, we are given not only the place from which Moses departed the earth, but also, a restatement of the Abrahamic covenant. From the description in these verses, it seems obvious that Moses was blessed with a divine vision of the covenant Land. From the top of Mt. Nebo, the Lord showed him the territory promised to Abraham and the twelve tribes of Israel. There can be no mistake about the extent of the Lord’s promise.

Having witnessed the Land with his own eyes, Moses died. However, the nature of his death is quite amazing:

“So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.

“And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Beth-peor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day.

“And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.

“And the children of Israel wept for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days: so the days of weeping and mourning for Moses were ended” (Deut. 34:5-8).

Regarding Moses’ death, it must first be observed that he did not die of “old age,” or of “natural causes.” Apparently, even at the grand old age of a hundred and twenty years, he was as strong and healthy as a young man.

And secondly, Jehovah, the Lord, personally commanded the place and manner of Moses burial. No man witnessed it. The words of Deuteronomy make it abundantly clear that there was no human witness to the event. The place of his burial was never known.

But how did Moses actually die? When an ordinary person dies, his body quickly dissolves into water (which evaporates) and a variety of mineral components. Given time, these disperse into dust, the stuff from which Adam was made in the first place. The average body is quite worthless; mining its material wealth would produce only a few pennies’ worth of usable chemicals. Only the soul and spirit are of worth; they live on to be judged by the Lord.

This was not the case with Moses. His body was considered to be extremely valuable. Perhaps its value was far greater than anything we can imagine on earth. Scripture goes out of its way to make sure that we know this. An incident recorded in the epistle of Jude gives us certainty about this fact.

As he writes, detailing the nature of false teachers, he notes their tendency to disrespect spiritual authority. To illustrate this point, Jude recalls an apparently well-known occurrence that concerned the death of Moses. Jude brings forward the historical point that the devil had, at one point, attempted to make the case that Moses’ body belonged to him. An argument ensued, with the archangel Michael making an appeal to the Lord, rather than directly criticizing the person of the devil:

“Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

“ Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

“But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves” (Jude 8-10).

The truth of the matter is plain: The protocols of heaven command a degree of respect, even for the fallen Satan! Until the final judgment, the Old Serpent has retained some sort of sovereignty over this planet. The fact that he desired the body of Moses makes it clear that he believed he had a legal claim. There are many lessons taught by this encounter. But for our current study, the main thing to observe is that Satan considered the body of Moses to be quite valuable!

As already stated, a dead body is worthless. Moses’ body had great worth; he was not “dead” in the usual sense of the word. Was he in some form of suspended animation, pending his latter-day reappearance? A brief passage from the history of Flavius Josephus reveals what the Jews actually thought about Moses’ “death:”

“Now as soon as they were come to the mountain called Abarim [Nebo], (which is a very high mountain, situate over against Jericho, and one that affords, to such as are upon it, a prospect of the greatest part of the excellent land of Canaan,) he dismissed the senate; and as he was going to embrace Eleazar and Joshua, and was still discoursing with them, a cloud stood over him on the sudden, and he disappeared in a certain valley, although he wrote in the holy books that he died, which was done out of fear, lest they should venture to say that, because of his extraordinary virtue, he went to God” (Antiquities, IV. viii. 48).

Here, we have an apparent eyewitness account that shows Moses being lifted up into a cloud, the very same idea expressed by Paul in the New Testament, as he describes the rapture of the church! Did he leave his body behind, to be interred by the Lord in a place which no man knew? Or did his body rise to heaven, where it lay in a place designated by the Lord? Was it in that place that Satan attempted to take it?

This side of eternity, we can never know the answers to these questions. But we can say with certainty that Moses’ death was out of the ordinary. And later, in the days of Jesus, Moses appeared to Jesus, Peter, James and John on the Mount of the Transfiguration:

“And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, 

“And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 

“And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him” (Matt. 17:1-3).

In this divine moment, Moses appeared with Elijah, who had also been taken to heaven alive. The strong suggestion is that somehow, Moses transcended the ordinary idea of death. Whether or not it is true that he was taken in a cloud, as mentioned by Josephus, is irrelevant. He didn’t die in the ordinary sense. He was caught up.

Elijah, the Third Raptured

Fourth: Jesus, Resurrection and Rapture

Fifth: Rapture of the Old Testament Saints

The righteous of the Old Testament era had patiently awaited the coming of their King. Now, He had come and He had risen. After His resurrection, a miraculous sign appeared, a signal of things to come:

“And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; 

“And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 

“And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many”(Matt. 27:51-53).

This brief mention of the Old Testament saints calls to mind the Jewish concept of Abraham’s bosom, that place in sheol where the righteous awaited the arrival and finished work of the Messiah. Though there is much mystery about the precise disposition of this place, an account given by Jesus, shows the reality of the underworld, (O.T. sheol) and the place where Abraham waited. A righteous beggar and an unrighteous rich man died. Both went to a place of waiting:

“And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

“And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom” (Luke 16:22,23).

Here, “hell” is the New Testament way of describing “sheol.” The question arises: What happened to those who waited in Abraham’s bosom at the resurrection of Christ?

The Scriptural answer is that they went with Christ to heaven. Many have commented upon this fact. Beginning with Paul’s account in Ephesians, they have concluded that Abraham and the righteous became a literal demonstration and exhibit to the citizens of heaven:

“But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

“Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.

“(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

“He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)” (Eph. 4:7-10).

Paul quotes a psalm of David, which prophesied that the Messiah would ascend to heaven with those faithful who, along with Abraham, had awaited His coming. From the cross, Jesus arose through the visible heavens, arriving at Heaven, itself, where He presented Himself as High Priest. He ascended through the territory of Satan, to God’s throne, where He presented the faithful before God.

This observation is affirmed in Colossians, where Paul, using slightly different language, tells us that Jesus led these faithful to heaven in a triumphal parade:

“Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

“And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it” (Col. 2:14,15).

Can the ascent of the Old Testament saints rightfully be called a rapture? Certainly, yes, since they were led in a triumphal parade to heaven. Their experience was the very essence of being “caught up,” in the same way that the dead in Christ shall rise first.     

Sixth: Rapture of the Church

Seventh: Rapture of the Two Witnesses

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According to Wayne Fowler I get what I believe. So I guess I’ll be raptured today! 😁

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I'm ready, willing and able!  TR