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Tammie, so you came out of your chair as she sat down into hers.  Sounds like a lot of ups and downs.  Me too, by the way, but I thought, "I wonder where this lifted and carried bride chair is documented."  But I didn't want to research it expecting personal frustration not finding it, and also the possibility it was a kind of "poetic license" taken by the writers, producers and directors.  They took liberty with the Matthew 25 wise and foolish virgins, after all (still, in my opinion).

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Certainly, I’m watching in faith for a 2020 spring wedding, my fallback is only God, the Father! I’m not a date setter as much as a season and current events watcher. :prayer-hands: :flyup:

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The Spring time season eluded to in SOS has been postulated as a betrothal season, with a Rapture then being in the Fall season!  Again, given the number of high watch days as being possible I still believe that time and divine disclosure being the wisest fallback position.  That said, I am indeed confident that this year is most likely!  TR

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I have this question for a long long time. Do the two witnesses know the exact day of Second Advent? They shall testify for 1260 days. During their ministry, will they tell the world when is Jesus coming back?

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Good question .... the 2 witnesses ministry is 3 1/2 years 1277.5 days or are you using a different calendar with the 1260 days?   But whatever the days ... its 3 1/2 years.

Personally I only think they preach about the Gospel message and warn people about not to take the mark of the beast and about the abomination of desolation to flee to Petra.

I know a lot of preachers say we need to tell people of “Jesus is coming soon”.  But from my experience on witnessing one on one with the average person on the streets ... its best to just stick with the simple Gospel message only.  I don’t get very far if I mention the rapture event and/or the 2nd coming.  The reason is the unsaved think life is here and now and don’t want to think about the after life.  I’ve tested their reactions many times when I said ... I have loved ones up in heaven right now and I miss them and can’t wait to be there with them.  Their reactions are always “oh don’t say that .. you have your whole life still down here to live yada yada yada” so I know I wouldn’t get very far if I mention the rapture or Jesus is coming back soon.  They would be turned off completely.  So I just keep it simple and tell them how they can be saved and have assurance of heaven and hand them a Bible tract.  I figure if they get saved, then they are ready.  Plus they would then be searching the Scriptures and hopefully be interested in end times things at that point.

From this verse it looks like the tribulation people will be in a state of shock at the 2nd Coming event so it doesn’t sound like they are prepared for His appearance with the wailing vs being happy and glad like we are looking for Jesus to take us home.  Or perhaps they were warned by the 2 witnesses and didn’t believe it and now they see it with their eyes?  :unsure:

Revelation 1:7 “Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.”

 

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Arthur, Pentecost is my #1 watch date. I'm very hopeful that the Rapture will happen this Pentecost or next Pentecost at the very latest. And let's hope it's this years Pentecost because I don't even want to think about what could happen over the next 12 months or so down here on earth.

This guy is going all-in for a 2020 Pentecost Rapture...

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Simmer is near!  An obvious warning.  When we read, write and think we are always looking forward.  Changing our mindset, let's take this warning and apply a backward approach.  A veiled warning that Summer will be too late!  For the Rapture will already have taken place!  Perhaps an exercise in a Jewish mindset!  TR

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I love Brother Chooch!  He is so enthusiastic!

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Good point “simmer is near ... boiling point” by summer indicating the heat is on and could be the start of the tribulation time!

Ok I won’t toss the hot water out of the pot just yet and will keep my eyes on Ascension Day and Pentecost once again :mail:  while placing another cooking pot for Feast of Trumpets on the back burner.  B-)

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Ok I watched most of this youtube and got the highlight parts.  Very informative with the meaning of the fruits!  To recap for those who don’t have the time to view it all ...

Brother Chooch’s timeline is:

Israel’s Rebirth

5/14/1948  -  5/14/2020 or 5/14/2021  + 7 year trib = 80 years

He says there could be a gap period after the rapture or maybe not.  My question to those who viewed this entire youtube ...

Does he think the rapture will occur on May 14, 2020?  That will be exactly 1 month away?!!!!  

Or on Pentecost?  

Then at the end of his youtube he’s saying to be on alert this entire year.  So this is what has me confused. :scratch:

 

Spring Fruits
Barley - represents Unleavened Pentecost
Wheat - represents Pre-Trib Saints
Figs - represents Trib Jews

He says the Tribulation hast to start in the fall time and end in the fall.

He has the ...
2nd Coming - on Feast of Trumpets
Separation of Sheep from Goats - on Yom Kippur
Millennium Kingdom - begins Feast of Tabernacle

Fall Fruit
Grapes - Armageddon & Judgment

Late Fall Fruits (Millennium Period) 

Olives - Light Anointing, Healing, Peace
Pomegranates - Fruitfulness, Blessing, Beauty, Intimacy
Dates - Agriculture Blessing, Worship, Righteous Government, Sweetness, Enjoyment

Then he talks about the red heifers ... there are currently 2 in the running ...

Back in May 21, 2019 I posted this

According to the “Temple Mount Institute” they mix the old ashes with the new ones.  I wonder if they will discover the old ashes in some container when they bring out the Ark of the Covenant, Mercy Seat, etc. ?  Also to speed things along … perhaps they might just use the old ashes until the new heifer is ready to be sacrificed?

The Original Ashes of the Red Heifer

“Speak to the Children of Israel, and have them bring you a red heifer… ”
These words teach us that God told Moses, “even if all the heifers throughout history are lost, that your will remain forever.” For there is a tradition that all the heifers are sanctified through Moses’ original heifer, and a portion of those ashes were put away for the future sanctification of Israel.

Why are the earlier ashes needed?

Earlier it was mentioned that in the days of the Holy Temple, the priest who was to burn a new heifer was sprinkled during his week of separation with ashes that had been made previously, back through the generations. This was done as one of the extra measures of purity associated with the ceremony of the red heifer, even though he was known to be clean, and there had been no opportunity for him to become otherwise while he was in the Temple.

Some opinions maintain that the newer ashes were always mixed together with a combination of the previous ashes. One way of understanding this, is to the view this mixture of old and new ashes as being yet another precautionary measure… actually, as a kind of insurance policy.

-Fair use-

 

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