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RAPTURE CHAT v.4

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I pray the whole world would receive Jesus as their King and we would just skip the tribulation.


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One thing to keep in mind is IF Charles is the bad guy, his coronation doesn't necessarily reveal him as such. We may still be here after the coronation.


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Sigh.  Then we can blame the Awe brothers for misleading us.  Click.  On to Pentecost or Feast of Trumpets.


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Nobody knows for sure. We speculate based on the best information we have. We get excited at the prospect that we could all be going home soon but so far everyone has missed the mark, so we just keep trying.


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Very revealing and interesting report - great find Kolleen! And thank you Yohanan for your balanced and measured comments. I fully agree. We need to temper and test our expectations with the truth as we anticipate the moment we’re all waiting for. I think our departure date is wrapped in mystery like a Christmas present – to be opened and revealed at the right moment.

‘Tis all a matter of timing, methinks. I agree with many commentators that the book of Revelation is not necessarily a chronological account, but rather a series of visions – some of which overlap. The question is: where do we, the raptured saints, fit in?

In the particular vision when the seals are opened, the Apostle John is called up to heaven, the throne room, in Revelation 4. (The Lord Jesus’s last words in Rev 3 are: “To him that overcomes will I grant to sit with me in my throne…”). John describes what he sees and then – in the same vision – tells of the opening of the first seal and he is told to “Come and see” the white horse and its rider with the bow… followed by: “…and a crown was given unto him…”. Note the order and the tense: he actually watches the coronation happening from heaven.

The 24 elders are also present, because they have just sung their worship song (Rev 5) including the words: “…And has made us unto our God kings and priests…”. Some say the number 24 is not a literal number, but represents Israel (12 tribes) plus the saints (from the 12 apostles). Maybe. And we know we are already a royal priesthood from 1 Peter chapter 2 and other references.

These events all occur within the same vision.

The issue of the rider’s “bow” also intrigues me. The Greek word toxon, translated as “bow” is also used for a rainbow. It’s common knowledge that a rainbow was seen over Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle when the Queen’s death was announced. Interestingly though, she allegedly died at Balmoral in Scotland and the rainbow was seen in London.

In the olden days before radio and telegrams, as the news was taken from town to town, a town crier would loudly proclaim in the streets: “The king is dead – long live the king!” It seems to me like that is the moment when the heir is acknowledged as the new monarch. That’s the moment the rainbow appeared over the English capital.

There is also a “bow” around Father God’s throne.

Random thoughts, ramblings and speculation.


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