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Pretrib Arguments in the Didache (The Teaching of the Twelve):

One of the hotly disputed topics in the evangelical world today is the rapture. Will the church be removed from earth prior to the tribulation? Or will she go through the tribulation and suffer under the God-hating efforts of the antichrist? Intimately associated with this question is the question of the eschatological views of the early church fathers. Did any of them teach a pretribulation rapture? The answer to  this question is a resounding, Yes! Many of them did.

The focus of our attention in this article is the Didache, also known as The Teaching of the Twelve. Though some scholars date this document to the early second century, most commonly it is dated to the first century, generally AD 70 to AD 100. This puts it in competition for the earliest Christian document outside of the NT books, one that may have been written while the apostle John was still alive and before the canon was completed. The early vintage of this document cannot be disputed. The authors of this document apparently had interacted with some of the apostles and the apostolic associates. And this is provocative information. Irenaeus was one chain link removed from the apostles. The authors of the Didache were even closer. They had one foot in the apostolic era. Their views on the rapture, then, could be expected to reflect the apostles’ view on the rapture.

We will focus our attention on the final section, Section 16, which zeroes in on the subject of the last days.

“Watch for your life’s sake. Let not your lamps be quenched, nor your loins unloosed; but be ready, for you know not the hour in which our Lord will come. But come together often, seeking the things which are befitting to your souls: for the whole time of your faith will not profit you, if you are not made perfect in the last time. For in the last days false prophets and corrupters shall be multiplied, and the sheep shall be turned into wolves, and love shall be turned into hate; for when lawlessness increases, they shall hate and persecute and betray one another, and then shall appear the world-deceiver as Son of God, and shall do signs and wonders, and the earth shall be delivered into his hands, and he shall do iniquitous things which have never yet come to pass since the beginning. Then shall the creation of men come into the fire of trial...

This is a strong argument for the pretribulation rapture from the imminence angle. The phrase “you know not the hour” doesn’t fit the second coming. Men will be able to pinpoint the second coming—at least theoretically.

The time of judgment at the end of the age, heralded by the rapture, sneaks up on the world. They don’t see it coming.

The second argument follows on the heels of the exhortation to watch and not let their lamps go out. There we read “But come together often, seeking the things which are befitting to your souls: for the whole time of your faith will not profit you, if you are not made perfect in the last time.”

The phrase made perfect (the verb teleioō in the passive) in last days contexts is more or less equivalent to our glorified and constitutes a reference to the rapture. [The evidence for this will be given at the end of this paper.] This is a warning that professing Christians need to make sure that they actually participate in the rapture. We could legitimately paraphrase this, “for the whole time of your church going will not profit you if you are not glorified in the rapture in the last days.”

Mere dabblers in Christianity will not be glorified but will be left behind to go into the most awful time in the history of the world—the tribulation. 
The warning is clear. Don’t play games. Don’t dabble. Don’t settle for mere religion. Don’t just be a church goer. Test yourself and make sure you are of the faith. Don’t be left behind. Make sure you are born again.

This constitutes clear, forceful, and indisputable evidence that the pretribulation rapture was held and taught in the earliest era of the early church—even by men who had one foot in the apostolic era.

[More at the link.]

https://soothkeep.info/pretrib-arguments-in-the-didache-the-teaching-of-the-twelve/   


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The Woke Church's Latest Blasphemy: Rainbow Communion Bread:

Imagine walking into church on Sunday morning. The pastor lifts the communion bread, and instead of the familiar loaf symbolizing Christ's broken body, it has been dyed in the colors of the rainbow. Before a word is preached, one of Christianity's most sacred ordinances has already become a cultural statement.
 
That wasn't a hypothetical.
 
Christ Episcopal Church in Dayton recently used rainbow-colored communion bread during a Pride celebration, explaining that the colorful bread was intended to celebrate and include its LGBTQ members.

Its purpose has never been to celebrate our identity, affirm our causes, or reflect the values of the surrounding culture. It exists to proclaim the sacrifice of Jesus Christ until He comes again.

After all, if communion bread can be redesigned to celebrate Pride, what principle prevents another church from redesigning it to promote climate activism, immigration advocacy, nationalism, racial politics, or whichever cause dominates tomorrow's headlines?
The rainbow-colored communion bread in Dayton may seem like a small gesture. But symbols have always mattered in Christianity. That is precisely why Jesus chose bread and wine in the first place. They were never arbitrary. They pointed unmistakably to His broken body and His shed blood.

And when believers leave the Lord's Table, the image fixed in their hearts should never be the cause of the day, the politics of the moment, or the colors of a cultural movement.
 
It should be Calvary.

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9th of Av coming up shortly starting nightfall on the 22nd in Jerusalem and going until nightfall on the 23rd.  Both the first and second Temples were destroyed on those days not to mention various other tragic events throughout the generations.  It might be a fitting date for the third Temple to be removed (the Holy Spirit residing in His Church).  It would also cause an intense reaction and jealously for the Lord among His remaining people on earth, the Jews, and cause many to turn their hearts back to Him.

Also, the latest talk globally is the Iran moved all their centrifuges into this pickax mountain which even bunker busters can't touch so the only option would be ground forces or nuclear weapons which could easily trigger a Gog and Magog like reaction back at Israel.

He's got it all under control no matter what happens.  Thank you brothers and sisters who keep these threads all up to date!


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That's tomorrow!  And remember that Israel is 10 hours ahead of Pacific Standard Time.  It could be 11 hours since we are on Daylight Savings Time.


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so 9am Jerusalem time, the 9th hour on Pentecost, would be midnight, central time US ?  If my math is correct, was the intersection of the two American eclipses in central time?


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a lot of reasons to be hopeful for tonight.


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A lot of dates connected to July 22, written as 22/7, is Pi.  22/7 is the general way to use Pi in calculations.  For instance, 911 plus 9080 days= 7.22.2026.  9080=40x227. But, people have told me that the Rapture has to occur on a full moon.  Proverbs 7:20 the good man returns on the full moon.  July 29 is a full moon.  Thinking about Lisa Leenie's vision of 11192, you have 29 with 3 roman numerals III29, which would be 26, for the year.  9-2=7 for the month and 29 for the day.  7/29/2026. Good  


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Five Doves, KS Rajan

THIS WEEK: THE 9TH OF AV WHILE ISRAEL IS SURROUNDED!

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