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I thought I would ask this here.  I have my own thoughts on this. I think the Bible says we believers the church will be God's heavenly people and serve as king-priests at the throne of God from the rapture, and thru the Millenium and new Heavens and new Earth.  But I think Israel will be God's earthly people.

Your thoughts on this.

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I think we will be wherever Jesus is.

John 14:3
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3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

 

We have an incredible future!! God bless ☺️?

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I lean that it happens this way …

The church, who were faithful and that earn crowns at the Judgement Seat of Christ, will be given the honors of ruling and reigning with Jesus too.

Romans 8:17
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

 

I Corinthians 3:

13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

 

The Church

Revelation 5:10  And hast made us unto our God kings (this is the church people who were faithful and obedient that received the prize - crowns) and priests (this is the church who were not faithful … they were the carnal Christians … who didn’t earn anything (everything burned up at the and weren’t even looking up for the rapture): and we shall reign on the earth.

(Note:  I “think” there are 2 Temples … one in heaven and one on the earth … so I lean the carnal Church Christians, that become the priests,  will serve in the earthly Temple.  However, if there is only one Temple … then they will serve in the heavenly Temple).

 

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Then we have the Tribulation Saints … they don’t get any crowns because they procrastinated /sat on the fence and didn’t believe during the church age … instead they are given the role as priests in the heavenly temple …

Revelation 7:

14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.

17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

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Here is another thought … those that enter the millennium kingdom will still have a human body that requires sleep (8 hrs ?)     So I think those who have crown(s) the rule and reign duties … will be able to get a break and can do their hobbies, visit with other believers,  space travel,  etc.

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A few thoughts and some scripture:

Melchizedek was both a king and a priest.

Genesis 14:18-20

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Abram and Melchizedek

18 Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was the priest of God Most High. 19 And he blessed him and said:

“Blessed be Abram of God Most High,

Possessor of heaven and earth;

20 And blessed be God Most High,

Who has delivered your enemies into your hand.”

And he gave him a tithe of all.

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Yeshua/Jesus is in the order of Mechizedek. As such he is a King and  a Priest.

Psalm 110:1-4

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Announcement of the Messiah’s Reign

A Psalm of David.

110 The Lord said to my Lord,

“Sit at My right hand,

Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”

2 The Lord shall send the rod of Your strength out of Zion.

Rule in the midst of Your enemies!

3 Your people shall be volunteers

In the day of Your power;

In the beauties of holiness, from the womb of the morning,

You have the dew of Your youth.

4 The Lord has sworn

And will not relent,

“You are a priest forever

According to the order of Melchizedek.”

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Also see Hebrews 7 for how Yeshua/Jesus is our Great High Priest. :yahoo:

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We too are kings and priests.

Revelation 1:5-6

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5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth.

To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, 6 and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.

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Amen, amen!

TR

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I’m on the fence with Melchizedek ….  There is much debate on who he was.  I need to study this more …

Was Melchizedek actually Jesus Christ pre-incarnate?

Melchizedek is eternal, having no "father or mother" and "resembling the Son of God he continues a priest forever" (Heb. 7:3). Abraham's tithe to Melchizedek also confirms his greatness (Heb. 7:4). Following Melchizedek, Jesus is the true king of righteousness ("Melchizedek") who lived the perfect life no human being could.

In the New Testament, references to Melchizedek appear only in the Epistle to the Hebrews, though these are extensive (Hebrews 5:6, 10; 6:20; 7:1, 10, 11, 15, 17, 21 KJV). Jesus Christ is there identified as a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek, quoting from Psalm 110:4.

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The priest Melchizedek appears in three sections of Scripture.

He is briefly introduced in Genesis 14:18–20. In a messianic psalm (Psalm 110:4), David addresses the “order of Melchizedek” specifically: after describing the victory and glory of the Messiah, David says,
“The Lord has sworn
and will not change his mind:
‘You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek’” (Psalm 110:4).

The author of Hebrews, in speaking of Christ, quotes this verse in Hebrews 7:17. So, Genesis provides background regarding the identity of Melchizedek, Psalm 110 connects Melchizedek to the Messiah, and Hebrews chapters 5, 6, and 7 describe the supremacy of Jesus as the Great High Priest, using Melchizedek’s role as an illustration of Jesus’ priesthood and kingship.

The Bible utilizes the phrase the order of to point to a lineage. An Aaronic priest would have been a priest according to “the order of” Aaron (Hebrews 7:11). These priests would have come from the lineage of Aaron, sharing a similar function and nature. So, another translation of Psalm 110:4 says that the Messiah will be a priest “after the pattern of Melchizedek” (NET) or “after the manner of Melchizedek” (ISV).

Genesis 14 describes Melchizedek as the king of Salem (which would later become Jerusalem) and a priest of God Most High. Abram recognized Melchizedek’s priesthood through his tithing of the possessions he had taken in battle (Genesis 14:16). Interestingly, this incident took place before the institution of the Aaronic line (part of the Levitical priesthood), which was to mediate between God and man under the Mosaic Law. Melchizedek was not a priest of Israel, as that nation did not exist—Abraham had no children yet. The Levites would not become a priestly tribe for another four centuries.

Psalm 110 describes the messianic nature of Jesus’ future rule, with an emphasis on Jesus’ eternality. It is in the context of Jesus’ kingship (cf. Psalm 110:2) that David writes about the Messiah’s being “a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek” (Psalm 110:4). Priests according to the order of Aaron were not kings but priests alone. However, as the author of Hebrews says, Melchizedek was both a priest and a king (Hebrews 7:1). In the same way, Jesus holds the dual role of king and priest.

The eternal nature of the order of Melchizedek is presented in Hebrews 7:3: “Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever.” In other words, Melchizedek appears in history with no record of a genealogy or ancestral line, no record of his birth, and no record of his death. The point is, Melchizedek appears to transcend earthly existence; this makes him a type of Christ, who truly does transcend earthly existence as the eternal King-Priest who has no predecessor and no successor in His high office.

One implication of Jesus’ priesthood according to the order of Melchizedek is that the Mosaic Law was insufficient to save: “If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood—and indeed the law given to the people established that priesthood—why was there still need for another priest to come, one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron? For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also” (Hebrews 7:11–12). We needed a better priesthood—an eternal priesthood—to save us from our sins for eternity. We needed Jesus, “one who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the basis of the power of an indestructible life” (Hebrews 7:16).

A priest is a mediator between God and man. Within the Old Testament, the Aaronic or Levitical priests would make sacrifices on behalf of the nation of Israel (Leviticus 16:1–28). Those sacrifices had to be repeated over and over. Eventually the priest would die, and his work as mediator would cease. Jesus, our High Priest “in the order of Melchizedek,” is not only our mediator but also our sacrifice (see 1 John 2:1–2). Because of His resurrection, death does not interrupt His work; Jesus remains our eternal High Priest.

Not only is Jesus the sympathetic High Priest (Hebrews 4:14–16), but He is the King as well (Revelation 19:16). Jesus will physically reign as king in Jerusalem (Psalm 110:2), and His kingship will be everlasting (2 Samuel 7:13). Much like Melchizedek was both priest and king, Jesus is also both priest and king. He is the eternal mediator between God and man and the final authority as reigning king, soon to return and establish His physical kingdom in the same city where Melchizedek was from, Jerusalem.

https://www.gotquestions.org/order-of-Melchizedek.html

 

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Interesting article … I’m familiar with David Levy … use to get Israel My Glory Magazines and attended a few of their prophecy conferences and he is one of their speakers.

In the comment section … someone said this and I think its intriguing:

“Melchizedek is the Holy Spirit in the flesh. The only other person who had no mother and no father is Adam. Adam was not on this earth when Abraham was alive. So the only possible person that melchizedek could actually be is the Holy Spirit” - Fair Use -

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