Does Matthew 24 refer to both the church age and tribulation period? I tried to break it down with headings of my thoughts of when the events occurred. I was just wondering what your thoughts are? When the disciples were asking “what is the sign of thy coming?” Weren’t they referring to the 2nd coming and not the rapture since it was Paul who taught about the mystery of the rapture later on? When it says no one knows the day or the hour does that refer to the church watchers not knowing and will be taken by surprised or the tribulation saints not knowing when the 2nd Coming appearing happens? As it was in the days of Noah - eating, drinking, marrying ... I always thought that referred to the church age but now I’m not so sure ... perhaps this will still be going on in the Tribulation period because the days of Noah were filled with violence, killing, everyone did that what was right in their own eyes and I can just see the gays still partying in the Tribulation, marrying and having parades promoting their agenda. :feedback Matthew 24 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? Church Age 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. Tribulation Period 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Church Age or Tribulation Period? 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Tribulation Period 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. 23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. Church Age or Tribulation Period or both? 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. End of Tribulation Period 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Church Age 32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Church Age or Tribulation Period? 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. End of Church Age or end of Tribulation Period? 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. 45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. 48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, End of Tribulation Period 51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Very nicely broken down Geri7. I still maintain that man cannot calculate the day of the Rapture, not having the full mind of God the Father! That said, knowing the Lord's heart and given the promise we won't be taken by surprise is why I have embraced the idea of a divine disclosure by God! This indeed seems to make the most sense to me and just sit's right in my spirit! Most of the questions you have raised I believe are more directly applied within the church-age, with the exception of the most obvious regarding His second coming and the millennium! Once again, God's proactive heart leads Him to make promises and supply prophecy! TR hi Geri, when the disciples asked, they knew nothing about the church age or the rapture. the coming of the Lord to them was His coming to rule as Messiah & King, when would Jesus come as the heir to David's throne, what would be the sign of His coming to rule. Jesus did not reveal the rapture in His reply. Here is more about Matthew 24, the Olivet teaching if you have time to see, Part 1: Part 2 about the Olivet discourse: i hope these are helpful. these are about Matt 24 also, who is it who endures to the end that will be saved and who is the one taken and who is left Thank you so much for the helpful youtubes, Regina! From the titles it looks like they will answer the questions I have. I can’t wait to watch them all! :yes: I found this chart in the 2nd youtube by Andy Woods, very helpful. -Fair use- Hi Geri8, This page is a very good read : http://www.bible.ca/pre-flavius-josephus-70AD-Mt24-fulfilled.htm Regards Do Raymond, The link you posted in response to Geri is from a website that believes in Replacement Theology and also believes that they can refute the Rapture. Are you aware that RITAN is a PRE-Tribulation Rapture website? We do not believe that the church replaced Israel and we do not believe that the church goes through the tribulation. I have read many of your posts and do not agree with the majority of what you post. If you are a believer of the pre-tribulation rapture, then please be more careful in posting sources that are against our beliefs. If you believe in some other kind of rapture or none at all, please read our statement of faith - this may not be the forum for you. We are a family that seeks to encourage each other as we wait for Jesus to rapture us before the coming tribulation. We voice ideas, views, and questions in line with our beliefs and statement of faith.
Matt 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
