Geri7, I heard your argument before. My belief is "no one knows the day and hour" has nothing to do with feast of trumpet. With modern technology, the exact hour and minutes of moon rise can be known ahead of time. I have attached a link. https://www.timeanddate.com/moon/israel/jerusalem?month=1&year=2020 Well, from the time I was 3 years old blessed to have a Christian mother, we never left the house without saying the 121 psalms, she taught me to watch and be ready. No date, every day. Looking up, all my life I could not count the days and nights to early morning looking for the blessed hope of His coming. Dates were never set or ever even discussed. Taught to watch and be ready, never upset or depressed as time has gone by, that's right near 60 years now. I spent a wonderful afternoon looking up in prayer this very afternoon. I'm so happy for and praise God for my brothers and sisters that have a good, as a healthy, a home, financially secure life. I however am disabled, in 24/7 pain even with epidurals for pain as well as major pain killers due to multiple severe health problems, no home of my own , a 12 by 12 room that cost almost half my hand to mouth finance , medical bills and supplement and medication taking a lot of the rest, what food I can afford. The grace and love of our Savior always meeting all my needs, living this way for 15 years now. I have been ridiculed by many for my faith, mainly due to what they see as my circumstance . Never angry never bitter, always knowing and believing God is in control. Godly wisdom VS mans interpretations, well after 60 years all I found I need is faith, if I need to have wisdom it comes from the Holy Spirit, God takes care of the rest as long as I let Him and stay out of His way with what my mind may think or come up with. When I get out of His word my mind can go all over. I try not to do that, I'm human I fail many times. As long as I keep my eyes and mind on Him thru His word given to us I find peace even in dire circumstance. All I know is His love, this world has nothing for me. I am content knowing my eternity will be with Jesus no pain no needs that are not supplied. Even now by no less than outright miracles I have had a roof over my head, great medical care, food, medications all I needed but not much by earthly standards. But this will pass and eternity with Christ is coming, maybe before I can post this ,maybe after I'm in the ground. But Gods wisdom has always been there taking care of me no matter mine or anyone's interpretation . My love in Christ to all here and all my family in and thru the blood of Jesus Christ. Do not worry He will be here right on time. YBIC Blake 2nd Coming, the problem is not that the commentaries might be "old." The problem is that you don't appear to listen to a n y o n e other than your own voice. Those commentaries often used sound reasoning and careful analysis to get to the meaning of the text. From what I can tell, you rely upon your own private interpretations and dismiss the thoughts of others as meaningless. This is an ongoing pattern in your posts. If you are going to make extraordinary claims, you need to have extraordinary evidence, not simply assertions based upon your personal preferences. Stating something arbitrarily does not change it from being an opinion to being established as factual. For example, you repeatedly reference the "Three Shepherds War," in spite of there being no mention of "war" in the passage. What evidence do you have of this being a war, when the identity of the three shepherds mentioned is undetermined? Please do not come back and tell us it has to be so because you can't see it being anything else. That is NOT evidence; that is unwarranted speculation. It is not exegesis; it is eisegesis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exegesis Exegesis (/ˌɛksɪˈdʒiːsɪs/; from the Greek ἐξήγησις from ἐξηγεῖσθαι, "to lead out") is a critical explanation or interpretation of a text, particularly a religious text. Traditionally the term was used primarily for work with the Bible; however, in modern usage biblical exegesis is used for greater specificity to distinguish it from any other broader critical text explanation. / ˌaɪ sɪˈdʒi sɪs / PHONETIC RESPELLING noun, plural eis·e·ge·ses [ahy-si- jee -seez] /ˌaɪ sɪˈdʒi siz/. an interpretation, especially of Scripture, that expresses the interpreter's own ideas, bias, or the like, rather than the meaning of the text. If you wish to be taken seriously, you need to provide something more than empty assertions pulled out of your hat. It's fine to label a view as your private opinion which people can either take or leave. But it would really be appreciated if you could provide some linguistic, historical or logical basis for your claims. That is what helps move a discussion forward, rather than a dogmatic pronouncement of a private view that lacks adequate evidence. Example: Genesis 3:15 does hint the coming of Messiah and the church era. Only the first part is true. The church era is NOT even hinted at in the verse. The Church was not revealed until much later down the line. I'm not sure what words or expressions you are inferring as requiring a body of believers set apart in that verse. I can only see that as your personal interpretation. Yet I am without doubt you will come back with something no one else would have ever associated with it. Why would God place his appearance immediately after the betrayal and crucifixion of Jesus? When we come to interpret scripture, we should never put ourselves into boxes. And in this case, try to explain away scripture with historical events. Prophecy points events to future. If they have already happened, there should be historical evidence to confirm it. But in the case of Zechariah 11, three shepherds are cut off by God, God breaks a covenant with all the people, and the appearance of Anti Christ, we haven’t found their fulfillment in history. Why can’t we find them in future? Already covered. Sometimes the fulfillment of verses can be many, many years apart. It is only your bias which demands they happen in a particular time frame. Some events that were prophesied have already been fulfilled and are NOT future events. Some events have been lost to history and we might not have a clear understanding of how they were accomplished. That does not demand they refer to future events. Reasonable people understand this. Do you think the tribulation saints will be martyred globally around the same time ... perhaps in the spring since they will be holding palms in their hands up in heaven? Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; Good point. I forgot about the 2nd Coming could fit on that day as well. Then Yom Kippur - Sheep/Goat judgment and Feast of Tabernacles starts to Millennium period? For years I just focused on Feast of Trumpets being the high watch rapture date. Then after hearing J.R. Church/Gary Stearman give the case for Pentecost ... I was happy to have 2 holidays a year vs just the 1 to get excited about. And now ... I’m for any high watch day if it means to get out of this world! B-)
