I see July 29 is Tammie's original watch date at the top of this thread, but I still liked seeing the math done. I assume that must have been in the video I didn't watch. :scratch: Acts 2:11-13 New King James Version (NKJV) 11 Cretans and Arabs—we hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God.” 12 So they were all amazed and perplexed, saying to one another, “Whatever could this mean?” 13 Others mocking said, “They are full of new wine.” The grape harvest begins in Israel late July or August with the month of Av. The fact that the apostles were accused of being drunk on new wine does put that time closer to the 2nd Pentecost of July 29. See below link: http://www.avoiceinthewilderness.org/saccal/cal12.html hi earthangel, They make the case for starting months with full moon based on Genesis 1:14-16. I had posted it because of seeing 2ndcomings comment about counting more days than 50 for pentecost, interpreting the text to mean a longer count. I don't know that the Creator's Calendar is correct, earthangel. for me it was interesting to read how they got there. Because God creates and governs and is a God who plans ahead, this convinces me that God has a set date for the day that Jesus spoke of in John 14:1-3. If it is today or whatever the day is, glory to God for His plan for creation, salvation and using His power to carry it out. I don't know the day... Some interesting things about this July, 2019 ... There are not one, but two New Moons in July, one on July 2 called the buck moon (native Indians - related to a bucks antlers being fully grown); the second on July 31, the black moon. July is the month with increased thunderstorms; July 22-24 are the best days to harvest hay The key to the whole issue is to remember that there were and are TWO wheat harvests in Israel. The Jewish Rabbis teach that the SECOND wheat harvest is the NEW GRAIN of the year and therefore cannot be used until the next year. We hope this information will help you to understand that there is a SECOND wheat harvest in Israel that is harvested about 50 days after the first wheat harvest -- and goes almost completely unnoticed because of the traditions of men. — Fair Use — Hope of Israel https://www.hope-of-israel.org/2wheatharvests.html This site is a heavy read, but totally spot on with explaining the 50 day count. :prayer-hands: :yahoo: :flyup: If we weren't all so emotionally and spiritually vested in the Rapture, it would almost be amusing how the Lord continues to refrain from tipping His hand! He seems to have gone to great lengths to divulge enough to peak our interest, yet not enough to be clear and exact! :unsure: TR So, the new grain offering is the wheat they plant in early spring, and harvest four months later in July and August. It makes sense. Then the tradition of Pentecost and Shavuot is wrong. It should have been 50 days after the seven Sabbath, Tammuz 26. This is also the 100 days in 153. I have suggested that Jesus may come back on Tammuz 26 2026, which is 30+45 days before the Eve of Tabernacle. So, Jesus is coming back on the real Shavuot. Here's a better explanation of my thought regarding the number 153, when we combine it with Leviticus 23:15-16. Leviticus 23:15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath ( the sabbath is Unleavened Bread Nisan 15, so the morrow after the sabbath is Nisan 16, this is also the number 3 in 153 ), from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete ( seven sabbath comes to Sivan 5 ): 16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath ( it is Sivan 6, represents by the number 50 in 153 ) shall ye number fifty days ( it comes to Tammuz 26, the number 100 in 153, that is, 100 days from Nisan 16 ) ; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD. Why did Jesus give us the mystery number 153 in John 23:11? Is it because he knew someday the Jews would lose the correct counting of Shavuot and he used the number 153 to correct their error? Let's say this is his real motive for giving out the number 153 to us. But how important is it if the real Shavuot falls on Tammuz 26? Does it point to his second coming when all the fishes / Christians including the tribulation saints are netted? Let's say he does come back on Tammuz 26, and takes 2019 to 2026 timeline for example. Adding 30 + 45 days to Jesus' second coming on Tammuz 26 2026, we come to the eve of tabernacle. From Zechariah 14:16, we learn that all the nations and kings are required to worship our Lord on Tabernacle. From my previous post, I have speculated Tabernacle is the end of 1335 days ( blessed is he who comes to this day ). If Tabernacle 2026 is the end of tribulation, then subtracting 2520 days from that date, we come to November 2 2019 as the beginning of tribulation. November 2 2019 reminds me of Lisaleenie's 11192. 11192 may be read as the 11th month, in year 2019, on the 2nd day, and it gives us 11 19 2. I posted this comment because of the date November 2 2019. 2nd coming you mean John 21:11 right? There is not 23 chapters in the Gospel of John — minor issue B-) or could the November date confirm the Ezra verse they laid the foundation of the Temple? Which means we have to be gone! Plus, if you watch Amir’s latest video, it is getting to look like we might have an Ezekiel war at any moment, so again, we are just a moment, a breath away of being out of here. :feedback :prayer-hands: What a rapturous Rapture it will be! The ultimate fulfillment of promises made! Elijah had his fiery chariot drawn by fiery horses. Enoch seems to have simply disappeared. Christ slowly ascended no doubt till his form vanished from view! Will we be points of light shooting upward escaping not only this life, ignoring gravity as well? Or when the dead are raised first will we see a vague spirit body ascending? Truly, as like with Christ's ascension only believers were present. So too with Elijah! And probably with Enoch as well. Every ascension was veiled from non-believers and the unrighteous, but having our spiritual eyes enlightened, what might we see?! Will we be here and then a nano-second later be with Christ and His Bride?! Will we see angels in waiting?! TR Yeah, minor issue. Must be typing error. Anyway, there is a high possibility that the three shepherds war shall break out in this summer, and then followed by rapture. I got this sequence in Zechariah 11.
the august date in the post about creators calendar was taken from a calendar they made. they are not counting the months from either a gregorian standpoint or based on "torah calendar", but they have an explanation about why they decided months begin with a full moon, written on their site. Starting with a full moon, their date for Sivan 6 differs from June 9.
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