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Arthur
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Canada going full fascist. I weep for my country. The true north, not so strong and definitely not free.

This mandate IS NOT just Canadian federal government employees. It includes ALL COMMERCIAL AIR PASSENGERS, employees in FEDERALLY REGULATED SECTORS, passengers on interprovincial trains, etc. Basically, if you aren't vaxxed, you can't have a life or job.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheMarieOakes/status/1426229197861752836

 

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Arthur, I’m so very sorry! It has truly begun, hard to grasp the reality of it all. Again, we need to go home, Abba!!! Please! :prayer-hands:

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My personal situation is ok. Many, many Canadians will be forced to take the experimental gene therapy, though. All part of their wicked plan.

Pharaoh's army is approaching and we stand on the shores of the Red Sea.

Exodus 14:13

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13 And Moses said to the people, “Do not be afraid. Stand still, and see the salvation of the Lord, which He will accomplish for you today. For the Egyptians whom you see today, you shall see again no more forever.

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They aren’t numbers anyone is going to see in the U.S. federal government’s Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS), but they’re astounding: In just a three-month period after it introduced its mRNA COVID “vaccine,” Moderna received 300,000 side effects reports.

The numbers come from a confidential, internal presentation that IQVIA, a company that helps drug makers manage clinical trials, shared with employees. “A person with access to the presentation provided screenshots” of relevant slides revealing the information, according to journalist Alex Berenson.

The 300,000 “dwarfs the number of reports in VAERS for the Moderna vaccine,” Berenson added. It’s not clear why the numbers aren’t showing up in the VAERS, since manufacturers are required by law to turn over to VAERS all reports of side effects they receive.

As of August 6, 2021, VAERS contains more than 3,000 reports of deaths following Moderna vaccinations.

https://blogs.mercola.com/sites/vitalvotes/archive/2021/08/06/moderna-received-300000-reports-of-covid-vax-side-effects-_1420_-in-3-months.aspx

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Eugenics is a social movement that supports the supposed improvement of the human population via selective breeding and other means. It was originally developed by Francis Galton, a cousin of Charles Darwin, and based upon Darwin’s theory of evolution. The word eugenics literally means “good birth” and comes from a Greek word meaning “well-born, of good stock, of noble race.” The goal of eugenics is to make the world (or at least a country) a better place by guiding the course of human reproduction and “purifying” the gene pool.

Eugenicists advocate genetic screening, birth control, segregation, transhumanism, euthanasia, compulsory sterilization, forced pregnancies, and abortion. Eugenics was practiced openly in the early decades of the 20th century in many countries, including the United States. Several state laws were passed allowing for the forced sterilization of institutionalized people. Such a law in Virginia survived a court challenge, with Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., writing in the decision, “It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind” (Buck v. Bell, Supreme Court, 274 U.S. 200, decided May 2, 1927). After WWII, eugenics by that name fell into disfavor when the extent of Nazi atrocities became known.

Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, America’s largest abortion provider, was also a proponent of eugenics. Sanger railed against the “reckless breeding” of the “unfit.” In her book Woman and the New Race, she wrote, “The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it” (Chapter V, “The Wickedness of Creating Large Families,” 1920). She desired “to breed a race of human thoroughbreds” and would rather a society “produce a thousand thoroughbreds than a million runts” (Radio WFAB Syracuse, February 29, 1924, transcripted in “The Meaning of Radio Birth Control,” April 1924, p. 111).

The Bible does not specifically mention eugenics, but the idea behind eugenics—that man can better himself by ridding the world of “undesirable” people—is definitely not biblical. And the methods promoted by eugenicists, including abortion, euthanasia, and racial segregation, are wicked practices. God told mankind to “be fruitful and multiply” (Genesis 1:28; 9:1, 7). No exception to that command is given in Scripture, and there is certainly no racial modification to that command suggested anywhere in the Bible. For social engineers to usurp God’s authority over life and death in order to create a self-defined “master race” is evil. Biblically, there is only one race—the human race—with everyone having descended from Adam and Eve. Racial discrimination and ethnic superiority go against God’s very nature: “God does not show favoritism but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right” (Acts 10:34–35).

English theologian G. K. Chesterton wrote in his 1922 book Eugenics and Other Evils, “There is no reason in Eugenics, but there is plenty of motive. Its supporters are highly vague about its theory, but they will be painfully practical about its practice” (from Chapter VIII, “A Summary of a False Theory”). Since that practice involves abortion and euthanasia, eugenics is simply murder.

Eugenics is not commonly called by that name today, but the underlying philosophy is still evident in medical genetics. Today’s genetic screening and fetal gene manipulation are vestiges of eugenics. When a possible genetic defect is diagnosed in an unborn child, some couples choose to abort the baby. Unborn children with Down syndrome are one example: in the United States, an estimated 67 percent of the unborn diagnosed with Down syndrome are aborted; in France, 77 percent; in Denmark, 98 percent; and in Iceland nearly 100 percent (“‘What kind of society do you want to live in?’: Inside the country where Down syndrome is disappearing,” cbsnews.com/news/down-syndrome-iceland, accessed 6/22/20). It’s eugenics by a different name, as people continue to attempt to identify and eliminate genetic material they consider “unfit” or undesirable.

Eugenics is a meritless and immoral social engineering experiment. It is a slippery slope in which Chesterton’s scientific madmen abrogate the authority of God and seek to create their own utopia on Earth. Centuries ago, Job lamented the evil of his day: “When daylight is gone, the murderer rises up, kills the poor and needy, and in the night steals forth like a thief” (Job 24:14). This is the role of eugenicist: killing the poor and needy and those he deems “unworthy,” preventing a “poor quality of life” (in his estimation) by taking life, denying men’s liberty, and playing God.

One day as Jesus and His disciples were walking in Jerusalem, His disciples asked about a man born blind. They wanted to know “who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” (John 9:2). Jesus replied, “Neither this man nor his parents sinned, . . . but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him” (verse 3). Who are we to decide who does or does not display the works of God?

In direct contrast to eugenics, the Bible tells us to defend the weak and disadvantaged: “Uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed. . . . Rescue the weak and the needy” (Psalm 82:4); “Blessed are those who have regard for the weak” (Psalm 41:1; see also Matthew 25:35–36; Acts 20:35). Killing the disadvantaged, culling those whom the more fortunate determine to be “unfit” for life, or weeding out the weak is ungodly to the core.

https://www.gotquestions.org/eugenics-Bible.html

 

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Kolleen, Great study — Billy Crone also has a great Bible study centered on this very evil called “Hybrids, Super Soldiers & the Coming Genetic Apocalypse Vol.1 & 2.”  This has been going on for decades and China boast of having placed human brain cells successfully in animals and a Chinese scientist admitted to impregnating via in vitro seven couples, only one remained viable and she delivered twins, they are closely monitoring these hybrids, CRISPR

https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/02/22/103395/chinas-crispr-twins-a-timeline-of-news/

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Tammie, Kent, churchgal...I found this and what do you think of this overview?

Ways to prevent and/or treat COVID, per Horowitz and others.

by Mary Beth Pfeiffer, thefirstepidemic.com

Becoming infected with COVID-19 — even after exposure to it — is not inevitable.

The virus is a bear, yes. But, if masks and distancing fail, it may be vanquished using safe, over-the-counter supplements for which there are supporting studies. The substances, used everyday by thousands, may even heal.

The evidence for this is still speculative since no clinical trials have been done. We need those studies now. But there is a wealth of medical literature to suggest that we can take some control over our fate with a simple visit to a health food store....

So I contacted Dr. Richard Horowitz, a renowned Lyme disease physician who in April published the first study of two COVID patients treated with three natural supplements; they were also given the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic. At 9 and 11 days into treatment, with both patients seeing gradual but incomplete improvement, a corner turned.

Glutathione

The breakthrough, as Horowitz calls it, came after he increased the dose of glutathione, an antioxidant in many foods that protects against inflammation, supports key cell functions, and, key to COVID care, is essential to a healthy respiratory system.

Within an hour, both patients were breathing better. “I definitely felt like the edge was taken off my symptoms,” said one of them, David Roth, 53. “I felt it fairly quickly.”

Natural supplements with exotic names like N-acetylcysteine (NAC) and glutathione were shown to have antiviral potential “years before COVID was on the scene,” Dr. Horowitz said. Having had success in using them and others to treat two dozen cases so far, he thinks they should be put toward preventing COVID.

“Although anecdotal,” he said, “I have heard from patients who were on NAC and glutathione when they were exposed to COVID-19, that they did not get sick or test positive for the virus, when others around them did.”

Calming the ‘storm’

What Horowitz did was apply to COVID the lessons of treating tick-borne pathogens, which also can cause harmful inflammation and over-stimulated immune systems.

“It’s not like this is a new treatment,” Dr. Horowitz said. “It’s moving it from one disease with cytokine storms to another disease, another infection, with cytokine storms.”

Cytokines are made by the body to fight invaders; but when there are too many, when the immune system is on overdrive, the cytokines turn on the host itself. Glutathione and related supplements may well stop COVID’s “cytokine storm syndrome.”

Since those first two cases, Dr. Horowitz has seen the same pattern of recovery repeated in other COVID cases. He has put patients on glutathione, related supplements and a cheap, safe antiviral drug called ivermectin, and none has needed hospitalization.

He dropped the controversial drug hydroxychloroquine because studies have been confusing and mixed. “I’m sitting on the fence on it personally,” he said. (See more below on how the supplements may work and Horowitz’s view of hydroxychloroquine. I plan a blog soon on my earlier HCQ reporting on this wrongly vilified and politicized drug.)

Horowitz, who has published influential studies on diagnosing and treating Lyme disease, is not one to think small. He and his long-time research collaborator Phyllis Freeman have published a plan to track, prevent and treat the virus....

Horowitz protocol for prevention

At my request, Horowitz agreed to share his regimen to prevent infection and, further, prioritized the list for me because of the complexity and expense of supplements. He advises that “patients bring my articles to their doctor and speak to them” first.

Top tier:
Glutathione, 250 to 500 mg twice a day
N-acetylcysteine (NAC), 600 mg twice a day

Second tier:
but makes above even better:
Alpha lipoic acid, 600 mg once to twice a day
Zinc, 40 to 50 mg a day

Icing on the cake:
Curcumin, 1000 mg twice a day
Sulforaphane glucosinolate (broccoli seed extract), 100 mg twice a day
3, 6 Beta glucan, 500 mg to 1000 mg once a day

To treat the infection, Horowitz uses the same supplements as in the prevention protocol but in higher doses. He further adds high-dose Vitamin C and ivermectin, which shows promise for COVID and would have to be prescribed by a physician. (See treatment details below.)....

‘Helped me breathe’

Among Horowitz’s ardent new fans is Dr. Lou Rotkowitz, 43, a Queens, N.Y., emergency room physician who said he almost died from COVID, contracted five months ago when he intubated a patient. He spent 10 days in critical care, leaving the hospital debilitated, with only inhalers and oxygen, and “on my own to figure out” how to fully recover. He called Horowitz, whose glutathione success was featured in a New York Post article. Horowitz explained how supplements might repair the cellular damage of COVID.

“It was all starting to make sense to me,” he said. “It’s basic molecular physiology.” Rotkowitz took glutathione, NAC, alpha lipoic acid and ubiquinol QH, a form of  CoQ10 that reduces stress on cells and supports the heart, among other things.

In looking back, Rotkowitz, who is also a New York City Fire Department physician, says three things saved him: A high-flow breathing machine called Vapotherm in the hospital; two rounds of hydroxychloroquine, and, finally, Horowitz’s supplement regimen.

“It helped me to breathe better, helped my energy level to improve,” he said. “I had a really, really rough go of it. These things are really of value.”

Other protective protocols

Horowitz’s regimen isn’t the only option to protect against COVID.

Quercetin and Vitamin C, according to a review of the medical literature, prompt a “synergistic antiviral action” that may prevent infection and quell symptoms. Elderberry has been shown to have antiviral qualities and to promote cytokine production (though it should be stopped at the first sign of COVID).

Zinc, Vitamins C and D3, and N-acetylcysteine can be effective against COVID, the Cleveland Clinic Journal of Medicine has reported.

The Cleveland Clinic article said there “is likely little risk” from taking the supplements, but called for additional research on dosages. Horowitz agreed that in the context of COVID, “We just don’t know the optimal doses.”

For Horowitz’s patient David Roth, relief was in a 2 gram oral dose of glutathione 11 days into the illness. “I felt some of the result,” he said, unlike the more subtle effects of perhaps 10 supplements, probiotics and drugs. “I have no idea if the hydroxychloroquine helped,” he said. “It could’ve been the passage of time.”

Why are these supplements effective?

In brief, here’s what the scientific literature says on how the supplements work and their potential benefits:

Glutathione might be called the antiviral warrior in the COVID battle, playing a role, one article reported, in “antioxidant defense, nutrient metabolism, and regulation of cellular events.”  Of key importance, it’s essential to healthy lungs and respiration. One research article suggests its deficiency may increase COVID severity and drive up deaths.

N-acetylcysteine (NAC) has been found to neutralize harmful bodily stressors and promote production of glutathione in cells. It also “may help to reduce oxidative and inflammatory damage in pneumonia patients,” according to published research.

Alpha lipoic acid is an antioxidant that controls respiratory inflammation and, along with glutathione and NAC, quells cytokine storms; with glutathione, it detoxifies the body of heavy metals.

Zinc is “known to play a central role in the immune system,” making people low on it susceptible “to a variety of pathogens,” according to Horowitz’s paper.

Curcumin and sulforaphane glucosinolate (broccoli seed extract) decrease inflammatory cytokines and lower inflammation.

Beta glucan, from yeast, stimulates production of Natural killer (NK) and T cells, which defend against viruses.

Trial needed

As with many people, I’m grappling with the best course. For months, my family.... has been on elderberry and Vitamins C and D3, which has been shown to decrease the severity of COVID infection. Some of us have taken curcumin and, recently, quercetin along with C. I have started some of the supplements on Horowitz’s list after reading the considerable scientific literature.

How much, however, is too much?

Horowitz told me in response that he has not seen any toxicity from the supplements at recommended dosages.  The exceptions, he said, may be alpha lipoic acid, which can cause hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) in a minority of patients; those with the condition should not take more than 300 mg twice a day. High-dose glutathione can cause a slight rash or wheezing that can be cleared with Benadryl.

For now, he wants to see his regimen put to a scientific test.

“If we were to do a randomized, clinical trial of the nutritional supplements now,” Horowitz told me, “we would have answers by the fall, regarding their antiviral and anti-inflammatory effects.”

And that would give people like me a great deal of reassurance.

Horowitz’s regimen for active infection:
Supplements listed above remain the same, except dosage changes.

Glutathione, 2000 mg, 2 to 3 times per day
NAC, 1200 mg twice a day
Vitamin C, 2000 mg 3 times a day
Physician-prescribed Ivermectin 0.2 mg/kg once a day for 10-14 days (Must be physician prescribed)

Dr. Horowitz’s comment on how the supplements work to treat and potentially prevent COVID

“Although anecdotal, I have heard from patients who were on NAC and glutathione when they were exposed to COVID-19, that they did not get sick or test positive for the virus, when others around them did. This can potentially be explained by the antiviral effects of NAC and glutathione, which have been published in the peer-reviewed medical literature, years before COVID was on the scene.

Supplements like NAC, alpha lipoic acid and glutathione also have anti-inflammatory effects. The way the viral machinery turns on is with oxidative stress, driving inflammation, and these supplements lower inflammation, by blocking a switch inside the nucleus called NF Kappa B. I have used this approach for over two decades, lowering cytokines and inflammation in Lyme disease patients.

Some of the same cytokines seen in COVID-19 are exactly the same cytokines seen in Lyme patients, especially during Herxheimer reactions, which is how I knew to use this approach, which has been effective. I also used to treat Babesia patients with shortness of breath with IV glutathione and would see similar results, i.e., improvement of shortness of breath.

So all of my years of treating tick-borne diseases have given me a perspective that other doctors or researchers may not have regarding the efficacy of this approach. I would suggest however, until a randomized, controlled trial is done, that patients bring my articles to their doctor and speak to them about taking NAC, alpha lipoic acid and glutathione. I believe it will help protect them against the inflammatory effects of the virus.”

Dr. Horowitz’s comment on the use of hydroxychloroquine

“The hydroxychoroquine debate is a typical one in medicine. First a treatment is said to work, then it’s examined in greater detail in multiple studies, where there are conflicting results. Some older studies showed benefit. Others did not. One study resulted in a clinical benefit, if the patient was also taking zinc. Other studies showed no benefit and potential side effects (nausea, arrhythmias).

Didier Raoult in France, who is the French researcher who initiated the trial of HCQ/macrolide trials, still believes that the regimen is effective. I’m waiting to see how it all plays out, especially because the Lancet had to retract negative comments about the combo. In the meantime, in part to avoid the debate, and because there were some good studies showing the efficacy of ivermectin for COVID-19 (a drug I had a lot of experience using), I decided to use it for the treatment of COVID-19 along with nutritional support like NAC, ALA glutathione, and zinc.

We have seen success using ivermectin, where patients have reported improvements within hours of use. An in vitro study also showed efficacy of ivermectin in killing the virus in culture, with two clinical trials (one involved patients on respirators) showing some benefit. We still need better trials, but the basic science is there supporting its use, and as I said, I have seen patients respond positively within hours of taking it.”

https://www.lymedisease.org/pfeiffer-preventing-covid/?fbclid=IwAR2UMXPAOvjSRkl-C3IGcjFU36w_xQ9wCggZCKh09QYQms2dK_ZJaYlK6Mg

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I take most of these supplements every day, and when my family was sick, I didn't get it.  I wondered if it was because I am a blood type O, and they are all A's.  But they don't take supplements as regularly as I do.

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I can vouch for the above article:  Ways to prevent and/or treat COVID, per Horowitz and others.

In Jan 2020 we went to CT to bury my MIL and came back with "something" that knocked us off our feet for 10 days.  A month later they named it covid.  We have been taking suppliments for years and try to stay healthy.   In March I read about the above preventives.   I upped our Vit C to 1000, and D3 to125, and added Elderberry.  I take 1250 but hubby likes the gummies and only takes one 100mg twice a day.  We did great as friends and neighbors got sick and 2 died.  We were good till Jan. 2021 when a church musician friend tested positive and couldn't play and hubby filled in for him.  Low and behold 2 weeks later he got sick again and spent 3 weeks in bed, lost 30 lbs, and lost energy.  I put him on the Ivermectin and I took a few doses. He recovered and regained the weight, LOL, and came through with no  after effects.  I'm not a Dr and YMMV.  But this has worked for us.  Since then I'm more aware when we have to be with others and sometimes boost the vitamins.

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