Exactly, Leaving Soon. I'm waiting for Revelation 4:1 "Come up here!" :amen: Ditto! TR I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16 They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of theirwrath has come, and who can withstand it?” --Rev 6:12-17 If one accepts that the Pre-Trib Rapture is true then we won't be on earth for the 6th seal. Unless one accepts the false belief of the pre wrath Rapture. :wacko: Here is an article debunking the idea of the pre wrath Rapture as taught by Robert Van Kampen: Introduction: Within the last few years a new view of the timing of the Rapture has become popular. This modern view, called the Pre-Wrath View, was first taught by Robert Van Kampen in the 1970's. In the early 1990s Marvin J. Rosenthal published a book titled "The Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Church" which popularized the Pre-Wrath Rapture view. Today it is accepted by many evangelicals who were once Pre-Tribulationalists. The basic difference is that the Pre-Tribulational view places the Rapture before the coming seven year Tribulation or Daniel's 70th Week. (See Dan. 9:27) The Pre-Wrath view places the rapture of believers as occurring sometime during the middle of the Tribulation. It concludes that believers, of this present Church Age, will experience the beginning years of the Tribulation, but be raptured before God pours His wrath upon the earth. Thus this is the reason for the title, "Pre-Wrath Rapture." This view has several major flaws. First it teaches that Church Age saints will go through part of the Tribulation. Second, it teaches God's wrath is not poured out during the first three and a half years of the Tribulation. The view further teaches a split rapture with only some believers being raptured and others left on earth. This paper will point out various errors of the Pre-Wrath view which shows that the Pre-Tribulational view is the scriptural position. Christians in this the current dispensation of the Church Age will not go through the Tribulation and will be "caught up" before the seven years of God's judgment on the earth, and will be forever be with the Lord. https://bible-truth.org/Pre-Wrath.html S Thanks Arthur! TR
