it needs another frame where he has a big smile on his face and he says At Last! we can have some peace and safety to live our lives however we want! Thanks for the smile and laugh Geri and Regina. Yep! They will get their one world government, the freedom to sin as they will, evil will prevail but for a brief 7 yrs, and boy are they going to be surprised when we ALL return with the King of Kings, smack! :yahoo: Thank you, Regina. That was an excellent youtube from Andy Woods :good: Ok to recap it all: ”He is coming like a thief in the night” - is that the rapture? Nope “No man knows the day or the hour” - does that apply to the rapture? Nope. Instead its in reference that the unbelievers living in the tribulation they will be clueless in knowing the time or program of God. So they will be shell shocked when He suddenly appears at the 2nd Coming because they won’t be expecting Him. ”One will be taken and the other left” ... this does NOT apply to the saved being raptured out but pertains to the lost during the end of the tribulation taken out for the Judgment of the goats. Only the tribulation believers (sheep) who made it to the end ... will enter the millennium kingdom. Matthew 24 and Luke 17 are all about the 2nd coming advent and NOT the rapture at all. All Scripture is for us but not all Scripture is about us. I have 2 questions ... Luke 21 is also talking about the tribulation period but then there is verse 28 ... “And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.”. Is this pertaining to the rapture? :scratch: My other question is did Noah actually warn and witness to his generation while building the ark? Because Genesis 6:9 says “These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. (meaning his genes were not tampered with ... his family were still 100% human). Meanwhile it says there were giants walking about and I think there could have been centaurs - half man/half beast walking around. In Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed (demon seed) and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. So why would Noah witness to the people of his generation if they were all giants or part man/part beast? Or were some people still fully human? :feedback Good teaching Geri7. 2 Peter 2:5 says Noah was "a preacher of righteousness" I've always wondered how many people died during the flood and if they all went to hell even the children because of their mingled DNA I see there are so many conflicting ideas in this forum, yet it is interesting to see the both sides of the argument. As may believe in a RAPTURE, having an interest in a Rapture Forum, I see that there are some who have not linked former shadow EXAMPLES in the Bible with the times of the END. There are some who do not link examples of PAST occurrences as being a dress rehearsal for the END. I could be wrong in my view, but there are 3.5yrs that ELIJAH was dealing with Israel long ago. James 5:17. Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of THREE YEARS and SIX MONTHS. Malachi 4:5. Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: Luke 9:30. And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias: After digressing, I believe the GREAT Tribulation is JUST the LAST half of the LAST 7 Years. In other words, the 42Months mentioned in Rev.11:1-3, is when the Holy City is DOWN-Trodden, 42 months before the 1260Day of 2 Witnesses have 1260 Days prophecy, and DIE 8 DAYS before the Resurrection and ADVENT occurring on a ROSH HASHANA Trumpet EVENT, being New Year of the 5784. (September 16th 2023) How do I come to 2023? We have BLOOD MOONS on FEAST days in 2014 & 2015, being the LAST TETRAD (4 BLOOD MOONS) - of which it is the 7th TETRAD that occurred in ISRAEL'S History! These TETRADS were WARNINGS that occurred when Israel was almost about to be "Birthed" 1948, and also when 6 Day War occurred when Jerusalem was UNITED - Ending Gentile Occupation as was Prophesied in Luke 21:24. (Google BLOOD MOONS) The Following year after the last TETRAD, was the START of 5777, - Which was the October 3rd 2016. I believe the TRIPPLE 7 was God's hint to say 7 FINAL years is Commencing! Thus we have TRUMP being Elected just AFTER Oct. 3rd 2016. (Till Sept. 16th 2023) Dan.12:1. And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. All the TIME MENTIONED in Daniel and Revelation HINGE on the Last 7 YEARS, which has 42 + 42Months. (2016 till 2023) - all but 2,300Evenings & Mornings - (1,150Days) relate to that 7 yrs. 42 Months Holy CITY is DOWN-TRODDEN (Holy City = Rev.21:2 - NOT Old but NEW Jerusalem) New Jerusalem is the BRIDE/FIRST Fruits(Not HARVEST)/ Woman Taken with Eagle Wings (Rev.12:6) 1,260Days Before Resurrection. NOT First Fruits of those who "Slept". 1 Cor.15:20. But now is Christ risen from the dead, [and] become the firstfruits of them that slept. WHO are these who are DWELL in HEAVEN? (While [Name Removed by Moderator] Continues 42 Months) - is it not the Chosen/Elected WOMAN Bride who is RAPTURED - For WHOM the DAYS were SHORTENED? Mark 13:20 .. but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. - For those NOT CHOSEN? - Inhabiting EARTH and of sea? BLASPHEMY = Claiming to be GOD and FORGIVE our SINS? (Popes and Priests/Rabbi?) Matt.23:8. But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, [even] Christ; and all ye are brethren. Those who have NOT KNOWN of the DAY or HOUR? Matt.25:12. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
Some seem to think that MOSES was NOT a companion of Elijah, in the time the 2 witnesses were to Prophesy. WHAT makes this Theory wrong ... if this DUO were ALSO the TWO who, just before the PASSOVER happened, came to encourage Christ to go THROUGH with His Plan to DIE for us?
31. Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.
Some say it would have to be Enoch, as we were DESTINED to die Hebrew 9:27. And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: ...ONCE to DIE isn't to DIE once.
- What about those raised, by Elijah and Yahusha? Some say that it was JOHN - the one who wrote Revelation, as they have no record of HIS death. Rev.10:11. And he said unto me, Thou must PROPHESY AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.
This does not say that TRUMP is of GOD, but he STANDS for land of Israel.
23. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward THEY that [SLEEP?] are Christ's at his coming. [2nd ADVENT/Resurrection]
Rev.12:12. Therefore rejoice, [ye] heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Rev.13:5. And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months.
6. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
9. And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
10. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, [even] Christ.
13. Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
