Joel Jospeh teaches from a Hebrew perspective, similar to Amir. His edition 508 was released yesterday, my daughter just updated me on it. You might find it enlightening. Im still praying :prayer-hands: for a bit earlier than FOT, which can happen at any moment, but FOT falls at the end of the season of the Bride, so still fits with tradition as described by Christ. what say you all? :feedback “Fair use” Thank you for the article. Rosh Hashanah (Feast of Trumpets) This is one of the seven feasts of the Lord, which plot the course of world history, Israel and the church, and into the Millennium in their prophetic parallels. The first five have been fulfilled. The remaining three will be fulfilled in the same manner, which is literal. Rosh Hashanah is the next in line to be fulfilled. (The Feast of Pentecost, the start of the church age was the last one.) IMVHO, Pentecost/Shavuot has only been half fulfilled. I believe that the start of the Church Age started on Pentecost and will end on Pentecost. However, any day is fine as His plan and will is perfect. :good: Yes, good article Tammie, thanks for sharing! For years I thought the rapture would be on FOT but just a few years ago when I heard J.R. Church and Gary Stearman give the case for the Pentecost theory ... that it will end the church age ... it got me started to look in anticipation each year to that feast as well. I think its a toss up between both those feasts. :yes: With that said ... I’m hoping though we are out of here either April 1st, April 12th (Easter), May 31st (Pentecost) or is it the June Pentecost date? Then perhaps late this summer the Middle East wars will unfold and perhaps by FOT it will be AC confirming Trump’s Deal of the Century and the tribulation begins? :unsure: I’m just staying encouraged that anytime in 2020 could be it ... because of these facts: The ayatollah of Iran could be removed from power soon and the rightful crown prince of Iran reinstated - this will give Israel a false sense of security. The president of Sudan all of a sudden wants to be friendly with Israel - another false sense of security. Putin warned Israel to stay out of the air space in Syria or there will be war. Turkey has its navy/troops stationed near or in Libya. Tension continues to build between Egypt and Ethiopia for the drinking water at the Tower of Syene Dam. Abbas is the only one standing in the way of Trump’s Deal of the Century because the UN General Council has embraced it. So I see Abbas’ days are numbered if he continues to reject it. They could replace him? As J.D. says “the tension on the rubber ban can only be stretched so far” ... looks to be close to breaking point. :popcorn Geri, I totally get Joel’s rationale and I understand that FOT is the next feast to be fulfilled per Israel and the beginning of God dealing with Israel, it is al-Sissi significant to the end of the harvest season and first fruits. I’ve also heard Gary’s theory on a Pentecost rapture and yes it does make logical sense per our finite brains that the Holy Spirit be taken back on the same feast it was given, but I’m still holding out for a immanent or “any minute” rapture. :prayer-hands: Or the actual Pentecost, another 50 days after the historically observed (May 29 this year) Pentecost -- or July 17. See 2ndcoming's proposal. That's about as long as I want to be here. But alas! I've no choice nor influence... :unsure: Oops ... yes ...July 17th ... I was thinking of 2nd Coming’s Pentecost date theory and thought it was in June but it makes sense if you add 50 days to the Sunday, May 31st date it would bring it to the July date. Note: I see you have May 29th is that from a different calendar? Shavuot from Hebcal, Geri. 6 Sivan. Thanks for the Hebrew calendar link, Dan. I’m trying to find Easter ... instead of Sunday, April 12th ... is it Friday, April 10th since its 50 days prior to the Hebrew, May 29th (Pentecost) date? Do most watchers feel the Lord is going solely by the Hebrew calendar vs. the Gregorian one? Or perhaps He will be using 2 calendars? I was thinking since we are still in the “Time of Gentile Age“ perhaps the Lord is going to fulfill the rapture date with the Gregorian calendar and then switch over to the Hebrew calendar for the “Time of Jacob’s trouble”? :unsure: Geri, The Hebrew calendar is a lunisolar calendar, meaning that months are based on lunar months beginning with the new moon siting but years are based on solar years. So it is a bit of a floating thing, difficult yes! There in is why it is harder to gage the years, except since 1948, the land is restored, and the life is 70 years or by good health (right living) 80 yrs. The pace is to fast to last to 80 years, so we are at the door. We can’t put God in a box (as some do, present company (family) excluded) or direct what we think God should do. We bow to what God is doing, we are along for the ride and to live to honor Him by doing His Will. Isaiah 55:8-9 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.” It is truly exciting just watching God work. :popcorn :popcorn :prayer-hands: :flyup: I just saw this post from Thomas Maples ... “about no man knows the day or the hour” ... he makes a great case for the 2nd Coming being fulfilled on FOT vs that being the rapture event. So if it does unfold that way ... perhaps Pentecost is thee rapture date after all? Some believers think Pentecost was only half fulfilled ... start of the church age and will be totally fulfilled with ending the church age when the Holy Spirit is taken out of the way and stops restraining ... so all hell breaks loose for the tribulation. If using the 7 candle menorah the placement of Pentecost feast would be that middle candle. But if using the 9 candle menorah then back to square one about that theory. :scratch: I’m also thinking about the resurrection ... it occurred on the first day of the week and that changed when the early church gathered for fellowship and worship switching from Saturday to Sunday. So my thoughts are leaning the Lord is using the Gregorian calendar for the church age ... and Sunday, May 31st Pentecost could be the real high watch date vs. the Hebrew Friday, May 29th date. :mail: Its all a wait and see .. or perhaps we fly out of here on Resurrection Sunday, April 12th? :popcorn
My personal opinion leans more toward God following the Hebrew Calendar as it follows closely to the lunar/solar cycle as set by God.
