I sure hate that 2029 kind of talk, Seeking. Not disputing, but that thought is depressing. He points out on his community page that peace agreements need to be complete before the Israel government is dissolved. https://www.youtube.com/c/REVELATIONCHAPTER12dotCOM/community -Fair Use- And Brother Chooch has had some good discussions over the last few days about why to expect the rapture soon. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZnEaY0PbgBPrcIvVZg27RQ A piece i've been thinking about is Daniel 7 where it talks about the 4th kingdom. when this kingdom comes, its terrible. in NASB it says it devours the whole earth, treads down and crushes. Dan 7:23-25 It will take what had not been part of it (devours) and it will be oppressive and forceful in putting down dissent. in Dan 2:33-44 iron and clay feet and toes do not mix. Dan 7:24 Out of the kingdom (so the kingdom has to be present) 10 kings arise. After the 10 kings rise, another rises (antichrist) and subdues 3 of the kings. Subduing isn't peaceful. I'm wondering when the first horse riding of Revelation 6:2 is, if this takes place when the antichrist first rises (Dan 7:24), and 3 kings are subdued because in Revelation the rider is crowned and goes out conquering and to conquer. We are out of here before the tribulation begins. Pre trib rapture. Crowned elders are before the throne, present when Jesus takes the scroll from His Father's hand. I'm wondering if this 4th kingdom being established only happens after the church is raptured, if Holy Spirit keeps it from devouring the earth while the church is present or if the church will be around for part of its rising. when I see people being arrested for opening a business or some other perfectly normal activity, it seems like the kind of attitude the authorities will have when that terrible 4th beast/kingdom is in charge. only worse in the future. If the church is taken before this beast gets to devour nations into world rule, seeing what is going on in Australia, Canada, China and elsewhere now has me thinking we've got to be close. Powers of government are welcoming totalitarianism instead of caring about liberty and freewill of the people. Who would have thought parents could be arrested for being on a beach or at a park with their children or the whole world would be asked to wear masks and distance, separating families and friends worldwide. it walks like a beast and talks like a beast. its different from the kingdoms that have come before. Regarding Israel, what is written brings to mind Daniel 7:23, that Israel will think they are spared being devoured by the beast kingdom because of the agreement they make, or maybe they will be trusting in their own rituals and beliefs about following God, their heritage of being Jewish, although they have not come to faith in Christ yet. Isaiah 28:14-19 KJV 15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves: 16 Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste. 17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place. 18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it. 19 From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Dan+7%3A23-28&version=NASB am praying that the church will be caught up to be with the Lord before that 4th kingdom devours nations. the church is suffering now in many countries. governments are going out of their way to shut churches down. :feedback I think its a confusing mess ... what I’ve been pondering lately is ... if they are rounding up the deep state and successful in draining the swamp ... these people are either going to Gitmo prison or will be tried for treason and killed off. Then when the tribulation begins ... did the deep state have extra body doubles or clones on hand to use as backup emergency to fool their followers? Can demons enter into clones like they do with unsaved humans and animals? I also ponder how the AC will recover from his head wound. I do not think the devil has the power to raise up the dead ... so will they just be using another body double replacement or clone to fool the left behind? The Bible warns we are not fighting against flesh and blood ... Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Yeah the 4th kingdom that is coming is going to be scary ...with the Restrainer permitting the devil to do anything he pleases for a short while ... also having the Nephilims walking about on the earth and the fallen angels that are chained in the bottomless pit get released as well :wacko: ... soooo glad the Lord is taken His bride out of here before it gets REALLY crazy. 
14 Wherefore hear the word of the Lord, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.
