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I look forward to spending as much time as possible with the Lord, firstly.

Then I would enjoy exploring and enjoying the beauty and glories of Heaven itself.  And will also enjoy hearing the testimonies of others.

Other than that, whatever the Lord gives me will be best suited for me!

TR

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I have an excitement about possibly ministries that the Lord has for me to do during the millennium. I believe that God gives us unique abilities and desires for a reason and that they do not necessarily go away when we get to heaven. For example, my mom can grow just about anything she wants so long as the little bugs stay away (aphids??), but I so much as breathe on a plant and it usually dies. *groan* I have never had the "pull" to garden, kneel in the dirt, plant anything, etc. I don't necessarily see that side of me changing even on the other side of eternity. Does this make sense to y'all? I don't dislike gardening, but I don't enjoy it either. I don't think that is a part of our sin nature, so I have a feeling I will go on appreciating the beauty of gardens, but not gardening myself during eternity.

There are so many things I would like to do, like y'all have mentioned. 1,000 years is a long time, so I have a feeling I will have that chance. Plus, the humans going into the millennium still have to sleep each night, so that's 8-9 hours where we can be doing other things since we will be in glorified bodies. Thoughts anyone?

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nothing to do with antichrist being jewish,
but it could be fun to make baby hats and baby blankets for all the new little ones in the millenium.

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Indeed many have concluded that the Rabbi's of Israel would not accept someone who was not Jewish.  That said, the times being what they will be then, they might cave.

In either case, they will be deceived!  Speaking of being Jewish, I again ask why so many think that the Rapture of the Bride of Christ has to be closely related to anything Jewish?  Israel by and large has rejected Christ for two thousand years and will continue to do so until midway of the Tribulation.

As such, how loudly will the Rapture speak to the nation of Israel?!  Truly we are told that only in hindsight and when the veil is lifted from their eyes, can they see Christ.  The mystery of the Rapture seems to me to be a predominately Gentile issue.  Their eyes are still focused on the coming messiah, or what we call His second coming!

So if the Rapture then occurs on a day having nothing to do with Israel which is plausible, why are we prophetically focused on Israel's calendar?  We certainly need to remember that the Gentile Church of Christ was established in part to invoke Israel's jealousy!

Again, not replacement theology, but just simply stating the facts.  It is understood that Christ is Israel's  unrecognized messiah.  And the gift of the Holy Spirit of God given to the Gentiles was always part of God's plans.  Both of which are still refuted to this day, by Israel!

So then when God acts independently and sovereignly with the Gentiles, God doesn't need Israel's validation.  It seems to me that Jewish times and seasons don't necessarily need to validate the timing of the Rapture either!

And though we are Gentiles, we still serve the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!!!

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and then there is the possibility that the rapture has nothing to do with Jewish something or Gentile something, but rather that we have arrived at a time planned by God since the foundation of the world.

* in the fullness of time, right on God's timing, Jesus was born... Luke 1:26-35  2:5-12   Gal 4:4-5

* at the fulfillment of time Jesus died...Daniel 9:25-26  Isaiah 46:9-10  Romans 5:6

* he rose again on the third day fulfilling what Jesus said...Matt 16:21;17:22-23; Luke 18:31-32

(see Leviticus 19:5-7, nothing of the offering is to be left on the 3rd day, the dead sacrifice is gone!  Jesus was no longer present in dead form, but alive on the 3rd day :yahoo: )

and then there is this account of whose side God is on... Joshua 5:10-14

What is relevant is God's plan :mail:  He chooses the time and place

What's happening before the second coming and also through to the eternal state is on a timeline, and so the removal of the church is also within the timeline, slotted in when God has appointed it for His reasons Daniel 12:7

tick tick tick... all i know for sure is we are closer than in 2009 or 2010 when I first started paying attention

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Well said Regina.

All that we can glean from the scriptures detailing God's precise nature, His sovereignty, and all the tie ins with Israel it is sad that they missed the legitimacy of not only Jesus as messiah but the mystery of the Church as well.

I'm surely not claiming that my speculations/views are correct, but simply offer a different perspective.  Even if I were a man of learning and letters, and understood with wisdom the whole of the God's Word, that still wouldn't allow me to say that I fully understand the Lord's heart in all matters!

The fear of the Lord might be the beginning of wisdom, but knowing His heart would certainly be the fullness of wisdom!

TR

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i've got a picture of my granddaughter walking behind my husband, trying to walk in his steps behind him. if only I had thought it was that much fun to follow the Lord years ago! I don't know answers, TR, the only thing i've got to go on is trying to follow what God's word says. I understand that imperfectly. it does comfort me though to consider that God has a timeline that no person can undo, its a span that is being crossed one tick at a time. when we get to the place that is already planned, no event will stop our Lord from bringing us :flyup:

That's a highly precious thing, isn't it, to know the Lord's heart more fully. He believes you were worth dying for.

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Indeed, with regards to Israel we must also consider that there does seem to be a spiritual blindness that has been placed upon them.

Again you've heard me say.  Though the Lord can heal all manner of sickness, illness, disease and even death at times, He can't heal stupid!

TR

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TR, you pose some interesting questions. I do watch what is happening in Israel and Jerusalem because I do think it helps us watching for the rapture to gauge how close we are (I mean, if they start building the third temple tomorrow - that'd be a dead giveaway, right?!!!). But, I also watch the signs of the tribulation converging at a faster rate. I watch both and combined it tells me that we are so very close.

I think we also have to be careful to label it the "Jewish calendar" or say that we shouldn't rely on the rapture timeline to be connected to anything "Jewish." The timeline is not Jewish. It is God's calendar/timeline that he created. He established it and loaned it to His chosen people, the Jews. There is also evidence that we may be following His feast calendar during the millennium; which again establishes that it is God's calendar/timeline and not the Jews' calendar/timeline. Also, Jesus was a Jew! That does tie things to the Jewish people. While I do not think everything is 100% Jewish for the rapture timeline, I caution trying to separate the Jews from it and say it is only a gentile thing. My two cents...

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Your statement, yhwhtalmidah, "There is also evidence that we may be following His feast calendar during the millennium;" prompted me to search the Word for the term "forever," which I recall from Leviticus 23, where the seven annual feasts are decreed.  I found 17 instances of the word in that one chapter, many of which were part of the phrase, "It is a statute forever throughout your generations;"  Therefore I conclude that not only throughout the Millennium, but on the earth forever, the Jews will observe these moedim.  And according to Zechariah 14, all nations must celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles in Jerusalem.  That might be forever too.

Or maybe after the Millennium there will be no more generations on the earth...??  Like everyone living here will be immortal...?

Never mind.  That's too far into the future.  We don't even know about that elusive Rapture date yet.  Sigh!

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