📢 Forum Update - Hello everyone! I've made an improvement to the forum that should make following active discussions much easier. Beginning today, forum topics will display the most recent replies first (while keeping the original topic post at the top), so you no longer have to navigate through multiple pages to find the latest conversation. This change also helps improve the browsing experience in long-running discussions with many pages of replies. If you notice anything that doesn't seem to be working correctly or have any feedback, please let me know. — Richard G. According to I Thess 5: 2-9 ... I think the clue could actually be in this passage ... I’m leaning towards our heads up might be tied in with the peace deal announcement in June. We are watchers and staying alert so that day will not be a surprise to us. We just need to be on extra high alert and when we hear/read of the actual day and time Trump or Kushner will announce the peace treaty ... then that will give us the warning of how many days and/or hours we might have left to prepare before flying out of here. Granted if we are still here after they announce the deal ... then that means we just need to stay a little while longer until they revise the plan to “please” the many and ... again wait to hear that next date/time for the next announcement. Or am I totally off with this reasoning? I Thess 5:2-9 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Couldn't it be possible that indeed the world will be taken by surprise, and the Bride be given a heads up?! The reason being that the Rapture event is a private and personal moment between Christ and His Bride! Not for the world, or unbelievers! As stated, there has been much precedent which is reflective of the Lord's heart with regards to those He loves! And if we hold to the Jewish marriage traditions, which I believe were given as a template, a boisterous enterage is utilized as the groom approaches his bride to be. Or the constant communications between Solomon and Shulamite bride is in view! God's heart has always been revealed. Prophecy speaks to this as well. It's one of His attributes, as part of His character! What bride was not given the details and location of her upcoming betrothal, let alone it's appointed time? Elijah was given the day and probable nature of his rapture! Just as we are given every detail of our Rapture! In any event, a heads up is not critical to the Rapture's fulfillment, but I can easily see the Lord gifting His bride to be with some advance knowledge of it's timing! We also speak at length to the Lord's exactness in details and His timing historically. Why would this be conveniently altered for the greatest and most intimate moment between two lovers?! TR Okay, so I thought I would throw in my two cents. I have often struggled with this idea. Please do not misunderstand me, I would LOVE to have a heads-up that the rapture was imminent. I can see where there could be references to an early warning (those given in the old testament before a major event, etc.), but there are also the words of Jesus that come to mind when he tells the pharisees that they can read the weather, but did not interpret the signs of his coming (And again, my mind whirls with the idea that this would be a scolding to the body of Israel and not the church). Enoch walked with God and then he was taken. We do not know if he had a warning. Others were visited by angels or the Lord himself to give warnings and commands of preparation, BUT, this was all before the age of grace (the church age). The church was a mystery. The more I study Paul, the more it seems that we are taken instantly and the world is shocked. So I guess I am on a see-saw about this idea of a warning. I would love one - time given to get my affairs in order, not be driving, and contact those loved ones with a last plead - but I do not see any concrete reference to one given in the New Testament. I would love to hash this out though if y'all have more scriptures to study on this! :feedback I just think it's cute, lol. Hi, Wendy What is that smiling spider about?
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
