
📢 Forum Update - Hello everyone! I've made an improvement to the forum that should make following active discussions much easier. Beginning today, forum topics will display the most recent replies first (while keeping the original topic post at the top), so you no longer have to navigate through multiple pages to find the latest conversation. This change also helps improve the browsing experience in long-running discussions with many pages of replies. If you notice anything that doesn't seem to be working correctly or have any feedback, please let me know. — Richard G. As a watcher for the Lord's return now for many many years, and with it foremost in my mind the closer we get, I find myself, as I make daily plans and consider any long term plans, wondering how relevant it is to even think that far ahead when His return seems so sure. How do you reconcile this firm belief in His soon return with daily planning and doing things as simple as buying green bananas? Or, why make plans for a trip to Ireland and spending all that money to travel, when that money could be used in a ministry to save the lost? ...or why spend money on new clothes? Such frivolity and uselessness....!, Why get in a flap over problems and issues knowing we likely will not need to deal with them? My outlook is totally colored by this hope we have in our imminent removal. I am often appalled hearing my Christian friends, even our Pastor, never seem to factor the possibility of the Lord's return as they talk about future plans. When I mention, 'well that is...if we are still here and the Lord hasn't returned." they give me a strange look, laugh and that glazed look comes over their eyes like they are thinking, 'here she goes again....' They don't seem to see any connection between what is happening in the news and on the world scene as having any prophetic significance. It's like that verse 2 Peter 3: 4 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” But things ARE different and the fig tree generation prophecy declares that we ARE there. The time is up! So how do we reconcile our belief in His soon return with making everyday plans and considerations of the future? Are we really to live and 'occupy' as if we will continue to live out our full number of years here and die of old age....I can't seem to do that anymore....my life is like when as a child, I was waiting for some exciting future thing like vacation at camp and could not focus on the here and now. I can't even tell my husband anymore of upcoming high watch dates, because he's one of those who moan and caution me against such thoughts. Oh, Lord Jesus, come quickly! Sadly what Ted Turner doesn’t realize, is his sister is probably in heaven as that suffering child who called out to God in her pain and Teddy will only see her from the lake of fire where his pain is eternal for this scoffing at God. Yes, in calamities and tragic events … the unsaved either embrace God or blame Him and have a bitter attitude and reject the Free Gift of Eternal Life in Jesus. Here is Ted Turner’s false faith … sadly he’s got a twisted view on true salvation … he only has a head knowledge “belief”, while mocking Scripture verses and he adds “works” … he thinks giving lots of money to the UN will be a guarantee to make heaven. 🙁 Some feel he might have been behind the Georgia Guidestones being constructed. :yes: Ted Turner Talks About His Faith Throughout the half hour we spent with TIME magazine’s 1991 man of the year, Turner repeatedly talked about religious belief: how he lost it, how it appears in the new movie, what he thinks about it. Turner quickly jumped to his own defense. “That’s the rap on me, that I’m impious. I’ve read the Bible from cover to cover twice,” he said. “I was born again seven times, including by Billy Graham.” Everyone laughed, and thus began Turner’s waltz with religious journalists recently assembled in Washington, D.C. to preview Ted Turner Pictures’ new Civil War drama, “Gods and Generals.” Referring to the movie, Turner said, “I figured it would do well with the critics, and I knew it would do well with those who had respect for religious beliefs.” He then challenged those in the room to name “a major motion picture” in the last decade in the United States that treats religion as respectfully. If anyone had an answer, they failed to say so. Truth is, “Gods and Generals” is loaded with about as much prayer as it is gunpowder. And Turner said it was “appropriate” because that was part of the history. But don’t mistake the portrayed religious beliefs of Robert E. Lee, Joshua Chamberlain and Stonewall Jackson with those of Ted Turner. “I lost my religious belief when my sister got lupus,” Turner said candidly. “She was 12 and she died at 17. I was 15 when she got it. She was ill. It ruined her mind. She became insane. She used to go around the apartment and run into the padded walls and say, ‘God, I’m in such pain. Please let me die.'” Turner spoke matter-of-factly about the toll her illness, and his unanswered prayers, took on his life. “How could God let my sister suffer so much? She never did anything wrong,” Turner said. “She was 12 years old.” He ended his tale about lost faith simply by saying, “I prayed an hour a day for my sister.” Conversation meandered to more specifics about the film, but it swung back around to faith—and philanthropy. “Look at my philanthropy,” Turner said, as if making a case for his righteousness. “The Bible says it’s more blessed to give than to receive.” He then mentioned $600,000 he spent bringing world religious leaders to a conference at the United Nations. Turner said it again: “Look at my philanthropy—gigantic philanthropy. That’s something that every religion, particularly Christianity, puts as a top priority for everybody during their lifetime here. Contribute as much as you can to help those less fortunate than yourselves, right?” His case led him to conclude at the religious roundtable, “So I’m living like a Christian.” One of the writers then joked that if Turner’s salvation were up to him, then Turner would make it to heaven. “I guarantee you I’ll see you there,” Turner said. “You watch and see. First of all, I’ve been saved so many times. And once you’re saved, always saved.” That phrase demonstrated Turner’s knowledge of fundamentalist Christian rhetoric, which he jokingly employed to confirm his own salvation. Though Turner is a self-proclaimed “equal opportunity offender” who has knocked Christians before, he made himself right at home with a table full of them. That may be his biggest accomplishment yet. When our time ended, Turner stood up and, with a twinkle and grin, said, “God bless you all.” The room once again burst with laughter as Turner played to his audience. As he left, he couldn’t resist one more quip: “It’s in God’s hands now.” - Fair Use - Praying that the clueless get saved now while there is still time! :prayer-hands: While John 3:16 will be the eternal blot against them! Eternally ringing in their minds in Hell! TR
He better sincerely repent and accept the mercy and Grace God offered for that sinful soul with the death of Christ on the Cross, His burial and resurrection. :prayer-hands:
by Cliff Vaughn | Feb 28, 2003 | Opinion