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Tammie
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Loz, my brother, I completely agree that God will fight for Israel as in Ez 38-39. Israel will know this and recognize the hand of Jehovah. I am also of the mindset that America as one of the powerful allies for Israel in today’s political environment will not be able to assist with this event. Two things lend me to America’s inability to help, a significant and devastating attack that cripples our country or the rapture which will also significantly cripple the country. I’m praying earnestly for the later. :prayer-hands:

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Well...many great thoughts here.  My two cents..the U.S. is a blessed country and the majority of people are eating, drinking, marrying and blindly carrying on with minimal awareness to the endtimes.  My speculation:  the rapture happens and then like the days of Noah..we go up and the hammer comes down with tribulation for the entire planet.  Maybe U.S. gets wrath with an astroid strike and bitter waters.  Whatever happens, we are at the doors now with enough signs to know time is very short.

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These folks don't seem to be backing down, but maybe they are just being like a blow-fish when threatened? :unsure:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-10/billion-dollar-fleet-destroyed-one-missile-iran-cleric-threatens-sink-us-carrier

With the sanctions we are putting on them to restrict even more of their economy... are we backing a hurt, wounded dog into a corner and making them feel desperate? Do they feel they have the support of their big brothers, Russia and China, to help them pick a fight with the US?

Thoughts? :scratch:

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My speculation is Trump wants to provoke Iran to war by pushing them to corner with no way out. Trump has blocked pretty much all their revenues from oil and metals. If Trump does that to China, Russia, or any other major countries by sanctioning and blocking their exports, war has already broken out. Iran shall fight back, including prompting their proxies Hezbollah and Hamas to cause trouble on Israel. This could be their first step fighting back Trump.

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See, that is exactly what I was wondering about. With the rest of the Middle East countries, Trump's show of power has earned him respect... they may not like him, but they seem to respect him. But Iran is a different thing all together. Their leadership folks are Shiite muslims. Amir Tsarfati and Joel Rosenberg both explain the difference between Sunni and Shiite really well, but it really comes down to their eschatology. The Shiite (paraphrasing this in my own words) basically believe that they need to bring about full blown war on all infidels in order to usher in their long-awaited Mahdi. In essence - war with America is a good thing in their eyes since they believe America is the "Great Satan."

This is why I have had a bad feeling this last week as I watch our government's power moves toward Iran. Praying that the rapture truly is the reason that the US is decimated before the GT.

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Whereas, I do believe that “a war” is certainly on the VERY near horizon. The blow-fish really needs to take a look at the large gray ships that are more than a psychological threat, not to mention the presence of those B52 bombers. Russia does not really care about the religious battle of the jhadist or right wing radilical Iranians, they would prefer them gone & out of the way. They do however, care about the riches (spoils) in the land. They do also need to keep raising their head to prove “power” in the region. They can’t afford a war cause they are VERY broke. This does add to the rumors of war and the Shiites must raise a holy Ruckus, dare I say Ez. 38-39, to usher in their Mahdi (false prophet or Antichrist) to bring “peace” to the world. Just a few thoughts! I feel the Shofar is tuning up for a blast...do you hear it? Luke 21:28, “When you see these things begin to happen, stand and look up for the kingdom of God is at hand” :yahoo: :prayer-hands:

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There's a report that Israel worries Iran may order it's proxies to attack Israel amid the tension between Iran and US. When that happens, we are seeing the three shepherds in Zechariah 11 formed. They are Lebanon where Hezbollah based, Syria where Iran has 80000 Shiite militants and 20000 revolutionary guards. Jordan is the last shepherd. When they hear the rumour of war per Obadiah 1, they shall jump into the bandwagon and invades Israel. But sine they have a peace treaty with Israel, they shall assasinate their king Abdullah per Amos 2:1 and clear the hurdle to attack Israel.when that happens, God shall cut off three shepherds in one month. We shall witness this event. Then bang, booms, God calls His church the Beauty home. Hallelujah!!!

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Definitely keeping two eyes on this situation with Iran and praying for the safety of Israel. :prayer-hands:

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2nd coming I’m not quite convinced of the Jordanian piece but can see it as a very high probability. It would sure move the clock forward, bares watching. I held Jordan out for the Zachariah 12:3, but the hot bed is always worth careful observation. Course Rosenberg mentioned just such an event in his book series the last Iman. We shall see and not too far in the future- I say, bring it! :agree :amen: :prayer-hands: :yahoo:

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I was wondering who the 3 Shepherds were - so its Lebanon, Syria and Jordan.   Interestingly King Abdullah holds custodianship of the Temple Mount.  Ok so he is for the peace deal and he will release his custodianship role back to the Jews so they can build their Temple ... and that is why he gets assassinated by other muslims who are not for the deal?  Does the entire land of Jordan become uninhabitable or only the Petra region for the Jews to flee to mid point of the trib?

A few months ago I saw pictures of the area they will flee to ... I was amazed they have outdoor soda and snack vending machines, an outside luncheon area with tables and chairs with bar and grill and flat screen tv’s.  I was chuckling... I can just imagine the angels stocking up the food and drinks supply daily for the crowd while keeping the electricity going so the Jews can watch world news and keep tabs on what the AC and false prophet are doing.

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