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My Pastor is a Dallas Seminary Graduate who's preaching Pre Wrath?

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Yohanan
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Absolutely!  I think life in general is hard enough without the coming wrath. And you're correct, it's ALL God's wrath.


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grumpyoldchristian
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I've heard some describe themselves as "Mid-week" rapturists. They believe the 69th week ended with Jesus baptism and that Jesus ministry fulfilled the first half of the 70th week. They say Daniel 9:27 is saying Jesus caused the sacrifice to be invalid in the middle of the 70th week when He was crucified.

They believe the whole of the tribulation can only be three and one half years long and that the rapture occurs before that half-week restart. They believe God's wrath doesn't start until the sixth seal and that Christians will go through the first of the seals because it's not God's wrath, just severe "birth pangs" before the real tribulation.


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Those "mid week" rapturists are waaayyy confused.... :wacko:  How could Jesus's ministry be the first 3.5 years if the week doesn't start until the covenant is confirmed by the AC? and the Abomination of Desolation is clearly defined as the AC declaring himself to be God in the temple, not just a regular historical sacrifice....and since Jesus Himself opens the seals, and judgment begins on earth in the form of the riders on the horses...and nearly a quarter of the earth dies due to war, disease and starvation....doesn't sound like birthpangs to me, sounds like wrath....which just gets worse of course-

I certainly understand not feeling worthy, that is something that we all share is the feeling that we do not deserve the mercy and grace that the Lord has bestowed on us...that is why we are told is a gift of God, lest any man should boast (that he earned it).

The Lord removes the righteous before judgement and because of our salvation, we are deemed righteous- historically this is true...from Noah to Lot and on to us. Thankfully the Lord makes good on His promises....we are not appointed to wrath,  praise Jesus!!

and soon, we are going Home where we belong with Him and our loved ones there. :rose:

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Sonya
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"Yohanan says Pre-wrath is basically the belief that the Church will have to endure the first half of the Tribulation experiencing the wrath of the Antichrist."

Oh I hope not!!! 🙁

"Christ’s Bride still gets beaten up."

I don't want to get beaten up. 🙁 Cry


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