He believes Rev 3:10 is talking to the Church or Philadelphia not the church in regards to the rapture. Its been hard to hear his series on the book of Revelations. It dont even really understand the pre-wrath position. Were in Wrath Now Lol Pre-wrath is basically the belief that the Church will have to endure the first half of the Tribulation experiencing the wrath of the Antichrist but not the wrath of God. There is no blessed hope in that scenario. Christ's Bride still gets beaten up. :agree the believer is ALREADY vexed to the gills with every day trials ... what more do these pre-wrath people want? I never knew what “pre-wrath” meant until Yohanan just summed it up ... “they are expecting the AC to beat them up”. Are they bored and looking for more drama? Or perhaps life is still good for them ... and if that is the case ... I would seriously question if they are truly saved because the enemy is on a rampage against the true Church. Do you see a pattern in the particular Bible version these pre-wrath people use? I wonder if the newer versions are removing and/or changing words and its causing confusion for them to understand the sequence of events? :unsure: My pastor will say that no one at Dallas seminary believes in pre wrath but believes in the pretribulation rapture. Its just odd. Pre Wrath is not biblically sound. Another name for it is the 3/4 Trib Rapture. In the old Testament, it is made very clear that the whole Tribulation is God's Wrath. Not just the tail end of it. What it all boiled down to is that they think we need to be cleaned and purged. It's backdoor works based salvation.
