I have a sermon on CD called "Israel's Judges & Prime Ministers" I've had it for years now and just recently listened to it again. I don't know exactly when it was first preached but I want to say that it was probably before 2010 To sum it up the preacher makes comparisons of ancient Israel's Judges with modern day Prime Ministers of Israel. He says that the next different person to be the Prime Minister of Israel will be the 13th different person to be one of Israel's modern day Prime ministers. He says that Samuel was the 13th and last Judge of ancient Israel before Saul a type of AC took over just before King David a type of Jesus took over after Saul I found this article that sums this up better than I can. https://theisraelconnection.blogspot.com/2008/09/ancient-vs-modern-day-israel.html. Benjamin Netanyahu is actually the 9th different Prime Minister of modern day Israel but there have been 3 different and new ones after him from 1999 - 2009 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_Israel So the point I'm trying to make is that if Netanyahu loses in next months Israeli elections and Israel gets a new Prime minister that has never been Prime Minister of Israel before then we are one huge step closer to the Rapture but if Netanyahu wins then we may have to wait another 4 years for the 13th different Prime Minister of modern day Israel to be elected that eventually hands Israel over to The AC. Interesting, thanks for sharing. While here, we seem to be a captive audience watching and waiting. Just wondering then, who could ever replace Bibi?! Perhaps the 13th P.M. needs to be seated in order for the Tribulation period to begin! Perhaps Bibi and Trump both will be raptured?! Or it will be the next/last P.M. that embraces the A.C. !!!!! TR I was looking up these Israeli elections for next month and it's the first time ever they've had a re-election. https://katehon.com/article/first-time-history-re-election-israel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_2019_Israeli_legislative_election So it makes me wonder what it means. Did God cause it to postpone the Trump/Kushner peace plan for a little while longer ? I don't believe the Trump/Kushner peace plan is the covenant with many from Daniel 9:27 But it could be something that kindles God's anger and causes Him to get us out of here so He can pour out His wrath on this world. Anybody else have any thoughts on why this re-election thing is happening ? Thanks ! According to The Christian Post Michael Brown In Israel, you vote for parties, not for people. Benjamin Netanyahu being the head of Likud. But when you vote, you do not vote for the person but for his (or her) party. If you want to see Netanyahu elected, then you vote Likud, but even then, you cannot vote him in. All you can do is get his party the most possible votes in order to form a ruling coalition. In order to govern, you must form a coalition with at least 61 Knesset seats. There are 120 seats in the Israeli parliament, called the Knesset, and so, a majority of 61 seats is needed to have a majority. The two leading parties, Bibi’s Likud vs. Blue and White (a newer party), was very close. But the total votes for right-leaning parties clearly outnumbered the total for left-leaning parties, meaning that Netanyahu has the only real path to form a coalition. On April 10th both the Likud party and the Blue and White party getting the same number of seats (35), the next two parties were both ultra-Orthodox, namely, Shas and UTJ (United Torah Judaism; they won a total of 16 seats, divided evenly). Without them, Netanyahu hasn’t the slightest chance of forming a majority government. - Fair Use - ——————- In answer to your question “did God cause it to postpone the Trump/Kushner peace plan for a little while longer?” I vote yes because the peace deal unveiling was suppose to occur after the April elections and I’m leaning towards the rapture could be connected with the “as they are saying peace and safety sudden destruction” unfolds on the earth. Should be interesting if the Sept results end up at a standstill as well ... or will the winning party form a coalition with the ultra-Orthodox to have enough Knesset seats? The way I look at it ... either party will probably embrace the peace deal ... I base this on observing the Israeli people .... they all seem to be really longing for that 3rd temple to get built. I’m curious as to why you feel Trump/Kushner peace plan is not the covenant with many from Daniel 9:27? JerusalemOnLine By Aaron S. August 26, 2019 Trump said “The Money I cut off to PA will help move Peace Plan” US President Donald Trump has announced at the G7 summit in Biarritz that he might reveal his Mideast peace plan before the September 17th Israeli parliamentary elections. According to him, “We’re going to know who the Israeli prime minister is going to be fairly soon. A deal won’t be before the election, I don’t think… But I think you may see what the deal is before the election. And I think the deal will happen… Everybody says, that’s the deal that can’t be made… Israel and the Palestinians: there’s tremendous hatred for many, many decades, and everybody says that is a deal that can’t be made. So we’ll see if we can make it.” The US President also expressed why he thinks the Palestinians will accept the deal. “I think they want to make a deal, the Palestinians, and I think Israel would like to make a deal too. I think people, after so many years and decades, I think they’re a little tired of fighting. I cut off most funding to the Palestinians, a lot of funding. And I think they’d like to get it back,” Trump said. As of now, only the economic aspect of the plan has been revealed by Special Advisor Jared Kushner. The economic part of the peace plan essentially consists of $50 billion to go towards the real needs of the Palestinian people. The plan seeks to double the gross domestic product (GDP) of Palestinians, create approximately one million jobs for Palestinians, reduce unemployment in the West Bank and Gaza from 30 percent to single digits, and halve the percentage of poverty among the Palestinian population. The Trump Administration wants to raise a good chunk of these funds from Jordan, Egypt, and Lebanon as part of its plan. According to the White House report, $15 billion of the total $50 billion investment will come from grants, $25 billion in the form of subsidized loans and approximately $11 billion from private capital. The money contributed by the US and these donor countries will finance 179 economic projects in areas such as infrastructure, water, energy, telecommunications, tourism, and medical services. Of that total, 147 of the projects will be for the West Bank and Gaza, 15 for Jordan, 12 in Egypt and five in Lebanon. The proposal includes tens of millions of dollars that will be allocated to connect Gaza and the Sinai Peninsula for infrastructure – such as upgrading high-voltage lines and increasing electricity supply – and trade.The plan includes the construction of a five billion dollar pathway such a road or possibly a railroad between the West Bank and Gaza. It also seeks to inject 950 million dollars in the tourism industry for the Palestinians. - Fair Use - I'll take the providence of God over the politics of men any day! Because Trump speaks and maneuvers political climates as he does, not cow towing to any enemy, they respect him and listen when he speaks. A fresh political approach for any nation, let alone the U.S. Again, given the rabbinical understanding of "many", this could indeed be the start of that! Once in place it might sit for a while till the dust settles, but later on it will be "ratified" and implemented. TR In agreement :good: I was searching to see what others are saying and here are Savedat33 thoughts that she posted on her forum board: “So very very exciting. Half way through the article there is a quote from Pres. Trump who says: “A deal won’t be before the election ... but I think you may see what’s in the deal before the election.” Now.. that sounds like the peace plan is put out for people to see and then after Ezekiel 38, a leader emerges and goes to the table and confirms the deal/covenant. Then they will say: “Peace and Security” and sudden destruction (because the 70th week will have officially started) will be instantly upon them. Of course this is all assuming the plan is released before the elections (in Trump’s bid to help himself get re-elected since the economy is tanking). However, if we can see how it will all play out and it doesn’t require massive stretches of the imagination, we are incredibly close!” - Fair Use- ———- US President Donald Trump said Monday that his administration might release its Middle East peace plan before Israel’s elections in September, reversing earlier statements that it would wait until after the election re-do to unveil the long-delayed proposal. Trump told reporters at a joint appearance with Egypt’s President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi on the sidelines of the annual G7 summit in Paris that both Israelis and Palestinians were interested in reaching a peace deal. Trump said: “I think they want to make a deal, the Palestinians, and I think Israel would like to make a deal too. I think people, after so many years and decades, I think they’re a little tired of fighting.” He also said “I cut off most funding to the Palestinians, a lot of funding. And I think they’d like to get it back.” We’re going to know who the [Israeli] prime minister is going to be fairly soon,” he said. “[A deal] won’t be before the election, I don’t think… But I think you may see what the deal is before the election. And I think the deal will happen… Everybody says, that’s the deal that can’t be made… Israel and the Palestinians: there’s tremendous hatred for many, many decades, and everybody says that is a deal that can’t be made. So we’ll see if we can make it.” His administration’s Mideast peace plan was supposed to roll out over the summer, but unveiling of the US plan was delayed after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu failed to cobble together a coalition following the April elections and called a fresh vote, now scheduled for September 17. That delay was a “complicating factor,” said Trump. The US has so far kept the political elements of its plan under wraps, while the economic aspects of it were presented in June by Trump’s son-in-law and adviser Jared Kushner at an American-led conference in Bahrain. The economic side of the plan would see a $50 billion investment package for the Palestinians and the wider region. ••• - Fair Use- Don't know what time it is, but it's later than ever before! TR @ Geri7 I'm not 100 % sure that the Trump/Kushner peace plan is the official "covenant with many" from Daniel 9:27 Because when I think of the Rapture I think of over a billion people (mostly children) disappearing and leaving only their clothes and blood behind followed by the worse hysteria the world has seen since the flood. Hundreds of millions of mothers around the whole world are going to lose their minds like they did in Egypt after the 10th plague hit. Planes crashing, cars crashing, wars starting, nukes going off, UFO's with fallen Angels showing up and making their presence known. Anyway the point I'm trying to make is that after the Rapture and it's immediate impact on planet earth the Trump/ Kushner peace plan could get thrown out the window and a totally new plan will have to be written up. I keep thinking that this Trump/Kushner peace plan is all about dividing God's land and making money off of dividing it and their trying to bring peace, safety, and stability to the region without involving Jesus at all which in turn could make God say enough is enough and Rapture us home so His indignation can be accomplished. And thanks for taking the time and energy sharing your thoughts on this thread : ) Oh ok that makes sense .. total chaos ...kind of like it was on 9/11 ... it certainly put NYC at a standstill for a couple of weeks ... even had people attending church that normally didn’t and were asking “why did this happen?” My old church/high school in NJ quickly printed up special Bible tracts with the World Trade Center towers printed on the front cover and sent a bus full of students/teachers and those in the church that could take off from work and spent the time on the sidewalks 3 days in a row handing out Bible tracts and answering questions. It was a great ministry and they saw many come to Christ. So I can picture the rapture event with all the grieving on a much grander scale. I was glad to do the research and to find the Michael Brown article since he took the time to explain the whole process in layman’s terms. Before I was like this :wacko: with how the Israeli elections worked. Now I understand it better. B-) Yeah, if Trump enforces some kind of peace treaty he’s almost definitely the AC, ironic since mainly evangelicals voted for him, but I suppose the scripture about the elect being deceived must come to pass somehow.</p>
