When I suggest Seal 5 saints are form the church era, and they are the raptured saints, not tribulation saints, I do have proof from scripture. Concerning 5th seal martyred saints, Revelation 6:11 And white robes were "given" unto every one of them; They come to Christ by faith, not by seeing any evidence, that is, they never saw Christ in their livelihood, but base on their faith in Christ. Their reward is a white robe "given" to them in heaven. Let's see what kind of white robe the tribulation martyred saints receive. Revelation 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, "and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb". Now, by this time, after the 4 seals judgment and the 6th seal Gog/Magog, millions of believers have been killed. They are the left behind who come to Christ right after rapture. They come to Christ because they have witnessed the tribulation events. Simply put, they come to Christ by witnessing the evidence, foretold by God in scripture. They need to keep their salvation, not losing it, by keeping their white robe clean and washed. or else , they may lose their salvation. "These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white " Comparing to the martyred saints in 5th seal, whom are given and rewarded the white robe, these saints who come out of tribulation have to keep their salvation, responsible of keeping their white robe clean. There is no more once saved, always saved in tribulation. This is why Jesus fore warns " if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." "He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life" " be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life". John saw a great multitude coming out from the great tribulation after the sealing of 144,000. A lot of people think this is the second half of tribulation because of the words :great tribulation " is used. Using my timeline can explain this better. From the release of the 4 seals judgment in summer of 2020, to Gog/Magog which ended in November , there are millions of left behind have been killed. These are the people who choose to accept Christ right away after the rapture. They are counted for millions. But due to wars, earthquakes, famine, pestilence, natural disasters, they can't save their lives. They die and go straight to heaven. These are the multitude John saw in Revelation 7, immediately after the sealing of 144,000. I place the timing of this event in 2021, a year after the rapture in summer of 2020. Or these multitude may account for the first half of tribulation. Before the 7th seal is opened, there is half hour of silence in heaven, Jesus uses an hour of trial in Revelation. An hour speaks for the 7 years tribulation, while half hour points to the first half of tribulation. John saw the multitude come out of great tribulation. After what John saw, and after half hour of silence in heaven, Jesus opens the 7th seal which places this event in middle of tribulation. This is why I believe the multitude in Revelation 7:9-17 comes out during the first half of tribulation. Using my timeline again, mid-trib falls in winter 2023, to be more exact, 1290 days begins on Dec 3 2023. (Jesus fore warns the Jews to take flight before winter arrives). When God sees the abomination/Anti Christ places his image in His temple on that day, and seeing His people being surrounded by armies,this shall provoke God's anger. This also prompts Jesus to open the 7th seal on that day, to bring forth the 7 trumpets judgment. God's judgment begins to intensify from this moment onward. The first four trumpets shall last between winter of 2023 to 2024, with the 5th trumpet on and around the Tabernacle in 2024. 5th trumpet releases the beast from bottomless bit.His name is Abaddon. "And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon." "And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. " The beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit is Abaddon. He is the beast who kills the two witnesses. Tabernacle 2024 is the day two witnesses are killed, and 3.5 days later, they hear God's voice and ascend to heaven in the morning of Tishri 18. Earthquake strikes the city and 7000 are killed at this time. This is the second woe. Third woe is coming soon which is world war three. Sixth trumpet shall be blown in 2025. This trumpet brings in world war three. After AC invades Israel in mid-trib winter 2023, he shall go after Egypt, Ethiopia and Libya these north African nations. This take place between 2024 and 2025. Ethiopia sends a swift messenger to China for help. (Isaiah 18:1-2). China shall finally get involved in this conflict, 2025 is the beginning of world war three. This war can only last one year, one month according to the 6th trumpet judgment. Adding one year, one month to 2025, this takes us to 2026. Revelation 9:13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, 14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. 15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for "an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year", for to slay the third part of men. 7th trumpet shall sound on Tishri 10 2026. This wraps up the 70 jubilees since the year 1405 BC they entered the promised land..7th trumpets brings forth 7 vials judgment. These 7 vials judgment shall be poured on the earth between winter of 2026 to spring 2027. By March/April 2027, AC gathers kings and nations in Armageddon. After that, he travels to Nob (Isaiah 10:28-32) which is a stone throwing distance from Mount Olives, waiting for Jesus' return. Jesus returns in late spring 2027, when summer is near, even he stands at the door. A note here.On this illustration, the whole purpose is to line up the seals, trumpets, vials judgment in a season manner, spread them over 7 years, to give readers the approximate season of the events. When I can use 2020 to 2027, these events can also apply to 2021 to 2028, with no change in all these seasonal events. But of course, I would like to see it begin in 2020. Wow ... I’m all for 2020 - 2027 as the timeframe all this falls under! :good: What are your thoughts about the 7 years of burning the weapons/military equipment? Who continues the burning process when mid-point the obedient Jews flee to Petra? Do the flames not die down? Or does the AC assign the clean-up duty to the muslims?
