I don't know Geri. I asked my colleague who has been chatting with me on whatsapp if she got an exemption, she did not respond. we have been sending many texts so she might have not noticed the text with that question. I did not want to ask again. A colleague whom I texted a month ago, never responded. we are not standing together. this is not good. look what happened with South West airlines. did they not reverse the mandate when people stood together? It's not an option for me to say a prayer and take the shot to keep my job. taking that shot is too traumatic for me. The HR director said she shared my concerns about the shot with a hospital (fetal tissue use, gene therapy and carcinogens) They said fetal tissue is not used, these shots are not gene therapy and there are no carcinogens in them so my concerns are not valid and they can't approve my exemption request. they said I have until November 15 to get my first shot. If I don't do that, I will be put on unpaid leave as of January 1. I emailed my manager who is a christian. She called me and spoke to me for a while. I told her if people got the shot and are feeling well, they probably got a placebo and that thing is still in trial stage. She said the trials are over and nobody is getting a placebo. I felt so much mental strain. wondering again if we are wrong, I called my ND, he said he can't tell me what to do cause my job is at stake. I asked are these shots safe? He said no, but it does not really seem to matter what he thinks only what others think. He said his sister got the shot and seems to be doing ok so in a way , he sounded unsure himself. I said but they can cause clots, He said yes the spike proteins will end up in the brain. ....................... he said it 's like playing russian rouletter with these shots. some people are not feeling a thing. I am really confused and have so much mental strain right now. Hi Heidi, I got the Pfizer shot, two doses, and had no serious side affects. I did it because I want to be able to fly and visit my grandchildren. I was really disappointed though to learn that all three shots were developed from fetal cell lines (not just Johnson & Johnson). Not sure if I would have taken the shot having that info. I think it is good to take a stand and admire those who do. Very difficult though when your job is at stake. Sorry you are faced with this decision. Will pray for you for guidance??? It's sad that people can be so misinformed or can tell a bald faced lie without blinking an eye. The vaxxxes (most of them. Not sure about Sputnik, AZ or the Chinese ones) used research derived from the murder of children. That is indisputable. For those who took the vaxxx, I would venture to say that every one of us has taken so ething derived from the murder of children so that is a reflection of how wicked the world has become. It absolutely has unsafe ingredients. Even from the ones they actually divulge. (They supposedly have propietery secrets which is absurd.) Propylene Glycol which they have divulged (Antifreeze) is absolutely not good for you at all. It definitely qualifies as a carcinogen. As for it not being a gene therapy, that's another lie. It trains your body to produce and attack "spike proteins." It also attacks non-spike proteins (syncytin) that are necessary for reproduction but that's a coincidence I'm sure. :wacko: Thank you so much Melissa and Arthur. Arthur, thank you for the info. I really felt so much mental strain when they said my info is wrong and also my manger thought the shots are OK. I keep thinking ( or maybe I am just trying to make myself feel better about not having a job in the winter) that it would not be safe to go out much during the winter. with weather conditions being bad for driving, I will end up on public transit with lots of people around me and it's flu season plus people shedding. may I have your opinions on these things? 1. I have not yet read the letter that HR sent me. I am sure it will include what the hospital says in regards to my believes about these shots not being true. I would not be surprised if they did not back it up by documentation. should I respond to the letter backing up my believes with documentation or let it be since who cares about facts? They just want to push the shot on people. 2. some people are suggesting sending a letter of conditional acceptance to the shot instead of a rejection. The letter includes many questions to the employer including: can you guarantee that these shots are not gene therapy? can you show me data on short and long term safety studies ? at the end it asks for someone to sign taking full responsibility legally and financially if you got the shot and got injured. they are saying that employers can't provide the documents you are asking for and are not willing to sign and assume liability. They think this is a better approach than rejecting the shot. My problem with this is that employers might still be able to come up with some documents (with false or misleading info in them) they might also sign and then claim an injury was not because of the vaccine your thoughts would be appreciated thank you Indeed, putting the onus on them and pointing out it has been ruled that employers can indeed be held liable! PS: time for a new thread! TR
