Hahahahaha! Good one, Arthur! :mdrmdr: :mdrmdr: What did Donald Trump used to say? "You're fired!" But I'll bet he never said that to a horse. God is pure light. And as our bodies are transformed it could be done through the vehicle of particle light. Then we shall beam up as a light beaming into the Heavens. I have always maintained that the Rapture is a personal and intimate moment in time when Bridegroom and Bride are united. The unbelieving world will see evidence of our departure, while yet it being hidden from them! Though Enoch and Elijah as well as Christ were seen when lifted off the Earth, I think this was done for the benefit of believers! That we may know our end and the direction of our departure. The world who has been blinded by their sin will not be able to witness our escape. IMHO! Again this will be an intimate rendezvous. TR Hmmm ... a flaming chariot with a horse power engine :scratch: “suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.” A whirlwind sounds an awful lot like a tornado with lots of clouds and aren’t we meeting the Lord in the clouds? :whistle: And didn’t the Lord use a pillar of cloud by day and the pillar of fire by night to guide the Israelites during their exodus? So could it be the same thing for our exodus as well? And personal chariots sure sound good ... it would then have plenty of room for those who have domestic animals they want to bring up to heaven. :whistle: Swing low, sweet chariot Again, this brings up the question, will those that are left behind also physically see us rise into the clouds, or not?! I've expressed my opinion on the matter, what say You?! TR I’m leaning the left behind will see our departure :good: They probably won’t hear the command “come up here” because Jesus says “my sheep hear my voice” so the unsaved will probably only hear loud thunder ... But picture this scenario ... they are looking up at the sky as we leave and immediately after we are out of sight ... BAM the demonic UFO’s come down. It will be sooo easy for satan to deceive the world into claiming the aliens took us away vs them not seeing with their own eyes that we flew away. Now I’m wondering if the flying vehicle that takes us home is some type of UFO aircraft ... long silver airplane “wings of eagles?” B-) Because satan is a copycat ... if the demons are using UFO’s then God has the angels using them as well. https://sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe017.htm I am not endorsing anything, only noting that this is an ancient literary account of a trip in what would appear to be a flying vehicle. 2 Witnesses? Rev.11:11. And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. Rev.12:14. And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. [Whom does he KNOW DWELLING in Heaven? Elsewhere in Revelation it is ANGELS = Angels] Helicopters or Quad-copters = Sound like horses running, Wings like women's hair in Ponytails? Rev.9:7. And the shapes of the locusts [were] like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads [were] as it were crowns like gold, and their faces [were] as the faces of men. Multiple warhead Missiles? = Snake-like? Killing 1/3 of Humanity? Rev.9:18. By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths. Personally, I believe that they will see you in one twinkle and then they won’t see anyone the next twinkle. There in is why they will believe the strong delusion, for if they see you go up, it might awaken the knowledge that you were right and the rapture just occurred. I think the whole world knows the word “rapture” and so they scoff at our faith in Christ return. And their enemies beheld them! I could be wrong about the Rapture being witnessed. If it is, it could cause many to desire the same and make a decision for Christ! But seeing one or two people as opposed to billions disappear could be another matter. Now I am on the fence and in the air with regards to this issue. Hmmm TR I noticed there is at least 1 believer in the immediate family or within distant relatives. So when that believer and children get snatched out ... they will know and finally believe the rapture was true after all.
Coming for to carry me home,
Swing low, sweet chariot,
Coming for to carry me home.
I looked over Jordan, and what did I see
Coming for to carry me home?
A band of angels coming after me,
Coming for to carry me home.
12. And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
Rev.13:6. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM that dwell in heaven.
8. And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as [the teeth] of lions.
9. And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings [was] as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
10. And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power [was] to hurt men five months. (Sting - Looking Tail rotors?)
19. For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails [were] like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.
next, the verse in I Cor. 15:53 “For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality” - not a uncommon passage in chapter 15 beginning with verse 51....I believe that the putting on will occur in that twinkle, then I won’t need a horse or anything to rise up to see my Jesus... Just my opinion. :prayer-hands:
