Speaking of the Shah of Iran’s son ... :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn Iran crown prince predicts regime will collapse within months. January 15, 2020, 4:08 PM EST Washington (AFP) - The heir of Iran's deposed monarchy predicted Wednesday that the clerical regime will collapse within months and urged Western powers not to negotiate with it. Reza Pahlavi said that major protests which erupted in November and again this month, after the accidental downing of a Ukrainian passenger jet, reminded him of the uprising that ousted his father in early 1979. "It's just a matter of time for it to reach its final climax. I think we're in that mode," the former crown prince told a news conference in Washington, which he lives near in exile. "This is weeks or months preceding the ultimate collapse, not dissimilar to the last three months in 1978 before the revolution," he said. While exiled activists have routinely predicted the fall of the regime, Pahlavi said that Iranians could "smell the opportunity for the first time in 40 years this time." The 59-year-old heir to the Peacock Throne, who has not been to Iran since he was a teenager, cited as evidence what he called an easing of fear among protesters and the growing distancing of self-described reformists from the Islamic regime. In an address to the Hudson Institute, Pahlavi largely supported President Donald Trump's "maximum pressure" campaign that has sought to isolate the Iranian regime through severe sanctions, saying that past negotiations have failed. "It has long been time to recognize that this is not a normal regime and that it will not change its behavior," Pahlavi said. "My compatriots understand that this regime cannot be reformed and must be removed." Iranians "expect the world to show more than just moral support. They expect not to be thrown under the bus in the name of diplomacy and negotiation." Trump previously held out hope of negotiations but has recently said he was unconcerned with talks and ordered the killing of a top Iranian general, Qasem Soleimani. Pahlavi, whose Western-oriented father was closely allied with the United States, has played down prospects for restoration of the monarchy. He says instead that he wants to support a broad coalition of Iranians who will replace the regime with a secular democracy. Asked whether he can represent all Iranians, Pahlavi said: "It's not about me, it's about the people of Iran." "You may not like the messenger, but is there something wrong with the message?" - Fair Use - This Reza Pahlavi could be one of the ten kings Anti Christ appoints when he combines the two legs after Gog/Magog. He is pro western. After Gog Magog, Iran is decimated by God. There is a political vacuum in the region. Anti Christ shall revive the Roman empire by creating a new alliance. This new alliance consists of the western leg and eastern leg. Don't sell short Reza Pahlavi yet as he could be the western puppet put in the office after Gog Magog. Going back to what Humbly Irrelevant posted, I have to disagree with him. Jesus is the head, and the church is his body. The body makes up many different parts. Some are good doing missionary, while some are good and gifted in revealing God's plan. Why should we stop these people when they have a better discernment regarding bible prophecy? I am always interested in listening to different perspective concerning the date of rapture and second coming. Does it bother me if they fail? Not at all. What we have to do is to judge them with the power of scripture. If they deviate too much from scripture, then we put a stop there. Examples are Revelation 12 sign in 2017, the astrological alignment of woman bearing a child. That is totally absurd and has no biblical basis. This is what we should have rebuked and I did. But for people who follow scripture only and did their reasoning based on scripture, we should give these people a chance. I agree 2nd Coming. Evidence based on scripture should be considered. I’ve read many intelligently thought out studies, including yours, but what I do not do anymore is hang my hat on any of them due to the let down I’ve experienced in the past. I cannot think of any topic that captures my attention like the Rapture of the church, most especially in the days we live in now. In times past any single big event had me sure it must be upon us. Today, with multiple events happening nearly on a daily basis we know it’s got to be very soon, and I expect that it is, but I don’t stay up all night on any given watch date. The let down is too depressing and depression is not from God. We might all be sitting around the Banquet Table discussing all of this tonight, and I truly hope we will be, but if not then tomorrow I’ll carry on with life and not suffer the blow that another night passed and we’re still here. Geri, I agree. This development could bring about “peace and safety” and why wouldn’t it? Israel has good relations with other Arab states and if Iran returns to its pre 1979 status then that would remove her biggest enemy from the scene. Whaat?!! No way ... you actually agree “that the development of the reinstatement of the Crown Prince of Iran could bring about the “peace and safety” announcement? :yahoo: Seriously ... I do think this has more potential of the scenario unfolding this way vs. the unveiling of Trump’s peace deal because .... I was reading they might NOT roll it out before the March 2nd elections. I’m just sooo tired of them dangling the carrot in front of the horse and then quickly snatching it away again. :negative: I do. It makes good sense because it would bring Iran back to it's former status of being allies with the West which would indicate that they would have good relations with Israel. Yohanan, Paul says the sudden destruction will not take us by surprise. Sudden destruction is the rapture. Paul must have some kind of assurance from God when he said that. He most likely received this assurance from God when he was caught up to third heaven. He didn't know what kind of event would lead to sudden destruction. But a careful examination of Zechariah 11, now we know that event is the three shepherds war. When we see this war breaks out, we know rapture is near. This is why rapture should not take us by surprise. And that is exactly what Paul meant. 2nd Coming ... many end time watchers believe that the church is not here when God pours out His wrath on the prophetic battles up ahead. The church is long gone. In Zechariah 11 the last verse talks about the AC will be wounded in battle. ”Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.” Are you saying the church is still going to be here to witness God’s wrath with the 3 Shepherd wars and see the AC get wounded before the rapture? Because it looks to be in conflict with 2 Thessalonians 2:1-10 this passage clearly says the man of sin will not be revealed “until the falling away first“ and “the Holy Spirit is taken out of the way” (at the rapture). 2 Thessalonians 2:1-10 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: Paul says sudden destruction will not take us by surprise in 1 Thes 5 because we will not be here. The Rapture will have already occurred according to 1 Thess 4:15-17 1 Thess 15By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord. Then in the next chapter, chapter 15, he declares it will overtake those who have rejected Christ. 1Now about the times and seasons, brothers, we do not need to write to you. 2For you are fully aware that the Day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3While people are saying, “Peace and security,” destruction will come upon them suddenly, like labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. 4But you, brothers, are not in the darkness so that this day should overtake you like a thief. 5For you are all sons of the light and sons of the day; we do not belong to the night or to the darkness. 6So then, let us not sleep as the others do, but let us remain awake and sober. 7For those who sleep, sleep at night; and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. 8But since we belong to the day, let us be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and the helmet of our hope of salvation. 9For God has not appointed us to suffer wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. Paul never tells us we will know the day or the hour, in fact Jesus Himself tells us that even He doesn’t know: Mt 24:36 But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. "The Day of the Lord" is a term used in both the Old and the New Testament, as in "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come”, which will take the non-believers like a thief in the night. It will not take believers by surprise because again, we will already be raptured into Heaven. Geri7, I have attached "The three shepherds war" for you to read. Zechariah 11 verse 15 speaks of the appearance of a foolish shepherd. His arms wither and his right eye is dried. God prophesied the fate of this foolish shepherd. He shall receive a wound from sword (Revelation 13:14) but he shall live. The end result of his wound is both arms wither and the right eye is dried.This event shall happen close to middle of tribulation. Three shepherds war in Zechariah 11 Zechariah 11:1 Open thy doors, O Lebanon, that the fire may devour thy cedars. 2 Howl, fir tree; for the cedar is fallen; because the mighty are spoiled: howl, O ye oaks of Bashan; for the forest of the vintage is come down. 3 There is a voice of the howling of the shepherds; for their glory is spoiled: a voice of the roaring of young lions; for the pride of Jordan is spoiled. 8 Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me. Through the prophet Zechariah, God has foretold one day He shall cut off three shepherds in one month. They are Lebanon, Syria ( Bashan ), and Jordan . Through out history, we couldn’t validate that this prophecy has been fulfilled. There is no biblical and historical evidence that the ancient Moab, Edom, Ammon (Jordan) together with Damascus ( Bashan ) and Tyre (Lebanon) were cut off together in one month. This prophecy is still waiting for it’s fulfillment. It shall be fulfilled per Amos 1-2, Psalm 83 and Isaiah 17:1-2.. But my focus point is not this. Zechariah 11:10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people. 11 And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD. Immediately after the three shepherds are cut off, God shall break the covenant with all the people. There have been some major covenants God has made with people. They are Noahic covenant, Abrahamic covenant, Mosaic covenant, Davidic covenant. None of the covenant can be broken because God promised not to destroy the whole earth again per Noahic covenant. For Abrahamic covenant, God shall give the land to Abraham’s rightful descendant who is Israel. This prophecy is still waiting for it’s fulfillment. At the end of tribulation, after Jesus returns, the Jews shall inherit the promised land. Mosaic covenant [ The Mosaic covenant, found in Exodus 19–24 and the book of Deuteronomy, contains the foundations of the written Torah and the Oral Torah. In this covenant, God promises to make the Israelites his treasured possession among all people[Exo 19:5] and “a kingdom of priests and a holy nation”[Exo 19:6], if they follow God’s commandments. As part of the terms of this covenant, God gives Moses the Ten Commandments. These will later be elaborated on in the rest of the Torah. ] Some bible scholars believe this is the covenant found in verse 10. Jesus has replaced this covenant. But we learn from God that the whole house of Israel shall be saved at the return of our Lord Jesus. (God only abandons them for a while, to makes His name known in the gentiles). God shall make them a kingdom of priests and a holy nation. Since this event is still waiting for the fulfillment, it doesn’t seem like this is the covenant shall be broken in verse 10. Concerning Davidic covenant, a King and a Messiah shall come from David’s lineage. The King and the Messiah is Jesus who shall rule over all the nations, This can’t be the covenant God shall break. Since Zechariah is silent regarding which covenant shall be broken by God, back in 2009, I have interpreted this covenant to be the covenant God makes with the church. This covenant shall have a time expiry issue, that is, when God calls the church home, that will be the time God breaks the covenant with the church. And immediately after this covenant is broken, God foretells the appearance of the foolish shepherd from verse 15 to 17. Many of us agree that the foolish shepherd is Anti Christ. The sequence of the three prophesied events in Zechariah 11. 1/ Three shepherds being cut off in one month. 2/ God calls the church home by breaking the covenant with the church. 3/ Appearance of the foolish shepherd / AC.
