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Five Doves October 8th, 2023 Letters.

https://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2023/oct.htm

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Patricia N.
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What do all of you think of those posts on Five Doves of TikTok videos of people vanishing?

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Which post?

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Well … Donna Danna said this …

(My reaction is that they were fallen angels because angels can shapeshift to look like humans and can likely disappear or appear because they have immortal bodies just like Jesus who walked through a wall as He had an immortal body. John 20:19.  In my opinion when Satan & the fallen angels are thrown out of heaven and down to Earth, they will arrive in gigantic motherships to deceive the people on Earth into believing they were are creators and tell us we were made in their image so they will be shapeshifted to look like humans.  And when they perform great signs lying wonders that look like miracles, many on Earth will be deceived by them and worship the Antichrist and his image and receive the mark of the beast in the right hand or in the forehead.  This is my own opinion.)

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After reading her thoughts on this subject … I can testify this can happen with demons taking on a “human form” and walking amongst us to harass us!  I had it happen twice.  I was in a super Walmart in upstate New York sitting on the bench (finished my shopping early and just waiting for my parents - we used to make it a day trip family outing out since it was a distance and plenty of stores to go to and then meet for lunch at a certain time and then shop some more.  Walmart was usually our last stop of the day) and while sitting on that bench … this young couple came thru the entrance way, husband pushed a wheelchair by the bench and then went to get a shopping cart to get the items they needed.  Meanwhile his disabled young pretty wife and I got to talking … I asked if she was in a car wreck?  She said no, she suddenly woke up one morning and couldn’t move/walk (like she had a stroke).  She was upset that her good looking husband will eventually leave her.  So I tried to comfort her and quickly explained what happened to my sister being in a horrific car crash and was in a coma for a few weeks and had to have many surgeries and was in rehab for a full year to learn how to walk and learn how to do other motor skills all over again … while she just had a new born baby (8 weeks old) and missed his entire first year while someone else (a good friend) cared for him. But she is walking again and was able to have 2 more kids despite the doctor saying that would be impossible because her pelvic bone was broken.  I quickly told her about Jesus’ saving power and how to have assurance of heaven and we will have glorified bodies no more aches or pains in the next life.  So was crying and saw the hope and wanted Jesus.  Then my parents arrived and we headed out to the parking lot to the suv.  While busy transferring the bags to the vehicle … this angry VERY ugly old man (looked like he was over a hundred years old) holding a cane zero in on me with rage and shouts in a language I never heard of and couldn’t understand and he is waving his cane in the air.  I finally said “in the name of Jesus Christ get out of my presence!” And he immediately takes off running soooooooooooooooo fast it down the parking lot of cars … it was kind of humorous to see as I kept my eyes on that wacko stranger and then … he made a left turn and then vanished into thin air. :wacko:   Meanwhile my dad was still placing the bags into the vehicle and said who was that?!!   I said I think he was a demon. 😂    Then …. A few years later … I was witnessing to someone else while on lunch break and then as I was at the post office carrying the mass mailing plastic container into the building to drop off … that SAME ugly demonic man suddenly appears on the sidewalk and blocks me from going up the steps and in a rage once more and talking a foreign language … so I thought not him again?!   So I said  “in the name of Jesus Christ get out of my presence” and he immediately took off running down the sidewalk and into the parking lot and suddenly vanished into thin air.

So I do believe Donna Danna take on this … its not far fetch at all.   There is nothing to fear, we have so much power in Jesus’ name … the demonic forces flee from us!

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Steve M:  1. Expert Photoshop video editor says disappearing kids is legitimate,

2. Another person who vanished,  and  3. TikTok trend of people vanishing.

Steve says, "There are hundreds of posts of security camera footage on TikTok where people simply disappear. I'm aware that recent technology allows people to remove objects within the frame of the picture or video, but the timing of this is interesting.

Are these people actually vanishing? I think it would be relatively easy to disprove if one of those who vanished was found later. Is this happening to desensitize the masses for when the rapture takes place? If the powers that be put it out there as a normal thing, maybe the real thing will be easily dismissed? This is just one example of many."

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Here is #1:

You would think if 45 kids on a bus just disappeared that more people would know about this. This person explains what he would see if it were a fake. He also points out something I didn't notice while watching it the first time, all of the car alarms outside of the bus going off. It's interesting to me also that the clothes on the children disappeared, but you can see some separate items like backpacks and a coat left.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8rRhApu/

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https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-disappear-vanish-people-rapture-265248192727

Videos don’t show real people vanishing. They were made by a Christian group to depict the Rapture

Published 1:08 PM MDT, October 3, 2023

CLAIM: Videos show children vanishing from a school bus and adults disappearing from a city street, among other places.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The videos were created by a Christian organization to illustrate how the Rapture would appear on camera and encourage people to learn more about the group’s religious message.

THE FACTS: The Christian videos are circulating widely on social media without their original context, instead featuring captions that falsely claim they show real people dematerializing with no logical explanation.

One video posted to TikTok, which had been viewed approximately 11.5 million times as of Tuesday, looks like CCTV footage of children on a school bus. As the driver is instructing them to sit still, the kids all vanish at once and the driver then seems to narrowly avoid an accident. “All the children Mysteriously Disappear from this Bus,” reads text above the footage.

Other similar videos variously depict the disappearances of two people talking on a city bench, patients and hospital staff, and restaurant patrons. As of Tuesday, they had collectively received more than 1 million views on TikTok.

But none of the videos show real-life events. Turning Point Ministries, a Christian organization founded by prominent pastor David Jeremiah, created them to provide a visual preview of the Rapture as part of its fall campaign.

The Rapture is a belief held by some Christians that Jesus will one day return to Earth and bring believers back to heaven with him.

Shannon Mann, a Turning Point spokesperson, called the videos “a CGI dramatization of the anticipated prophetic event called the Rapture” in an email to The Associated Press.

The full versions direct viewers to a website dedicated to Turning Point’s “Perhaps Today!” campaign, which describes the videos as “pre-enactments” — a play on the word reenactment. It explains that they were made with the “aim to create content so intriguing that the world will want to stop and consider the reality of this imminent prophetic event and look to the Word of God for the answers to their spiritual questions.”

Each video was filmed as if captured on devices that abound in modern society, such as cell phone, security and doorbell cameras, the site says.

Mann added that while Turning Point is “thrilled that some of these pre-enactment videos have gone viral and are being shared by many on social media,” some people have removed the final graphic with the campaign’s web address and shared the clips “on their own without any context.”
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Lol! So much for that guy's expertise in photoshop, video editing, and being a web master! :mdrmdr:

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Thanks for the explanation, Kolleen.

I just wanted to mention that I forgot to put quote marks on my post above (#1) but I want to correctly attribute the words to Steve Mullin.

Still, if this is going all around TikTok without its true context, it's bound to confuse a lot of people.

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It's on TikTok. :wacko: That was proof enough for me that it was fake. :yes:

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