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Five Doves October 31st, 2021 Letters.

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Did you see this article by Greg Wilson presenting a strong case that the Shemitah cycle is spot on the mark! :whistle:

The next 7 year cycle (11th cycle since Israel’s rebirth) kicks in on

Rosh Hashanah Feast

Sundown, Sunday 9/25/22

Just hoping the rapture occurs waaaay before this date on a Sunday 😉

And feast ends

Sundown, Tuesday 9/27/22 …. Daniel 9:27   And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

And I google what #22 means in the Bible … “ The number 22, which is double eleven (which symbolizes disorder and chaos), can mean a concentration of disorganization.” - Fair Use -

So how fitting to have year 2022  to kick off the tribulation period. :yes:

 

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Greg Wilson
Re: Luis Vega “Shemitah’s of Israel”

 

Lu:  Great observation and analysis.  I would like to add that this 2022 view is in line with Theordor Hertzl’s vision expressed by his Second Zionist Congress held in Basel, Switzerland in 1898 which will be 120 years ago in 2022.

Interesting that Noah had a 120 year advance notice of the flood.  Now, Israel will have had a 120 year period since Hertzl’s vision of Israel as a Jewish nation.  Hertzl had said in 1898 that he would expect to see a Jewish state within 50 years and so it was 50 years later in 1948 that Israel was formed as an independent nation.   Now, it would appear that we have a repetition of the 120 year advance notice pattern just as Noah.  As Jesus said the end would be associated with the days of Noah. (Matthew 24:37; Luke 17:26)

 

The fact that Daniel’s 70 weeks prophecy (490 years or 70 shemitahs) was clearly modeled on the Shemitah cycles, it makes sense that Daniel’s 70th week, a Jewish dispensation, would begin on a Shemitah.

 

I offer the following analysis of shemitah cycles in my article titled “Covenant Time”.   A PDF copy with the footnotes is attached.  This article was originally posted on five doves May 8, 2016.

 

COVENANT TIME: God's 490-Year Pattern

 

Introduction

 

This is a study of the 490 Year periods from Abraham to Daniel's 70th Week.  These periods of years, beginning with Abraham, teach an order about God's administration of His redemption plans for Israel.  These years form a pattern which may contain keys for understanding the time of the end.[1]  This article will focus on the pattern of 490-year periods generally.

 

There are four 490 year periods totaling 1,960 years in Israel's redemption plan beginning with Abraham and ending with Daniel's 70 Weeks prophecy.  These four periods utilize God's method of counting the years.  These four periods may be associated with God's promises to Abraham, Moses, David and Daniel's prophecy.   They can be termed  God's measure of  covenant or determined time ("Covenant Time").

 

God counts time differently than man.  We will see that God deducted days and years for unbelief and disobedience.  It would appear that God reckons covenant time according to Israel, exclusively.  As Jehovah[2], He is known as the Covenant God of Israel who keep His promises.

 

In the Book of Numbers, there is an example of God's counting method. It is in the context of the Nazarite vow to God.   Numbers 6:12 states:

 

"And he shall consecrate unto the Lord the days of his separation, and shall bring a lamb of the first year for a trespass offering: but the days that were before shall be lost, because his separation [unto God] was defiled."

[Words added for clarification]

 

We may infer that God counts Israel's time when Israel and God are in a right covenant relationship or in the case of Daniel's 70 Weeks a "determined" or "prophetic time".  It appears that these 490 year periods may be associated with a covenant relationship suggesting intimacy as in a marriage, or in the case of Daniel, restoration and fulfillment of Abraham's promises.

 

However, when Israel acts in a manner unbecoming, according to God's standards, God does not count time.  God declares a timeout in His plan.  Presently, we live in one of the timeout periods, which Paul describes as a "mystery"[3].  We are going to notice that time was deducted from each of these four periods as an expression of a 490-year period of right and determined[4] relationship.

 

For students of gematria who enjoy reading God's words as numbers[5], you may know that the numeric value of the Hebrew word "covenant" is 612.  Is it a coincidence that the word "covenant" may be associated with Numbers 6:12 ?  The word of God is perfectly ordered[6].  This verse speaks to the defilement of an exclusive relationship with God.   Could this be a confirmation that God's counting is associated with aspects of a covenant and determined relationship ?  Is anything too hard for God[7] ?

 

It seems appropriate to label these 490-year periods as Covenant Time.  Who is our Lord but "the strength of the covenant[8]".

 

Abraham To the Law: 490 Years

 

With the birth of Abraham,  God's redemption plans for Israel would develop with greater specificity.  The full scope of the Abrahamic promises encompassed the goals of Daniel's 70 Weeks prophecy[9].  This covenant necessarily contemplated the Mosaic and Davidic promises.

 

God's revelation is progressive, built by precept upon precept, line upon line, a little here and a little there[10].  God builds his doctrines in these manners for the purpose of building up and establishing all who would inquire with the right motives.

 

God was going to introduce His own unilateral[11] promises to Abraham and his seed.  These promises were based on the oath of God[12] and did not require Abraham's performance.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               These promises were everlasting[13].  They are forward-looking in that they extend through all 490-year periods into the Millennium and eternity.   Each of the subsequent 490-year periods are key components of the Abrahamic covenant.  It is a covenant which looks forward to the King ruling His kingdom in Righteousness and Peace forever.

 

From Abraham to the Law of Moses was 505 years.  The law was given 430 years[14] after Abraham departed out of Haran at the age of 75[15].  We need to add 75 years to 430 years which totals 505 years.  However, in order to calculate God's Covenant Time we need to deduct 15 years[16].  You ask why ?  Because God did not count the years from the time that Abraham had sexual intercourse with Hagar[17] , a bondwoman, until Isaac's birth[18].  This was during the fifteen year period when Ishmael represented the seed of Abraham.  God did not count this time because Ishmael was not the promised seed.  If we deduct 15 years from 505 years the result is 490 years.

 

In terms of the Abrahamic covenant, Abraham had no performance obligations.  God's promises did not depend on Abraham's conduct.  So, the suspension of time represented by the 15 years cannot be viewed as Abraham breaching the covenant.  So, what action caused God to suspend the counting of years ?   Certainly, Abraham exhibited "unbelief" in God's promise regarding an heir.  He had lived in the land ten years with no child.  He and Sarah took action, being unsatisfied with God's delay, by adding Hagar as Abraham's wife for the purpose of producing an heir.  Ishmael, the product of the union, was not God's planned heir.  The heir, Isaac was to be the "son of promise" not the "son of a bondwoman".   God did not count the time of Ishmael.  Although Ishmael was the seed of Abraham, he was not the heir of God's choice.  God began counting again when Isaac, the son of promise, was born.

 

Beginning with Abraham, the first period of "covenant time" totals 490 years.

 

Moses to King David: 490 Years

 

God established the Law on Mt. Sinai with Moses.   The purpose of the law was to establish God's standard for righteousness.  Before the law, there was no transgression[19].   Ultimately, the purpose of the Law was to lead all to Christ.  The Law was our schoolmaster leading us to Christ[20].

 

During the first 490-year period, we learned that Abraham met Melchizedek[21], a priest of the Most High God.  The Book of Hebrews speaks about this King of Righteousness and after, the King of Peace[22].  This is a picture of Messiah Jesus who has become an eternal High Priest after the order of Melchizedek.  Messiah Jesus' first appearance satisfied the righteousness requirements of the Law.[23]  Christ's atoning work confirmed the promises made to Israel's fathers[24].  I point out this interesting fact about Melchizedek because it joins the promises of Abraham to the Law and ultimately Christ.  Abraham was counted as righteous because he believed God.[25]  The Apostle Paul teaches that "the scripture, forseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed".[26]  The Law was given to teach God's righteousness and lead all to Christ through faith, apart from works of the Law.

 

The period of the Law lasted 601 years, but God only counted 490 years because Israel was in exile as a captive nation for 111 years.  God did not count the years of captivity.  God had judged Israel for the worship of false gods.

 

The 601[27] years are computed by adding the following periods of years:

 

40 years in the wilderness[28]

20 years under Joshua

450 years under the Judges and Samuel[29]

40 years under Saul[30]

40 years under David[31]

11 years under Solomon until the dedication of the Temple[32]

 

The years of captivity were 111 which must be deducted from the 601 years:

 

8 years captive in Mesopotamia[33]

18 years captive in Moab[34]

20 years captive under the Canaanites[35]

7 years captive under the Midianites[36]

18 years captive under the Ammonites and Philistines[37]

40 years captive under the Philistines[38]

 

This total number of 111 years has a deeper message even if it cannot be seen literally.  It may be read numerically in a manner consistent with the text aligned with God's character traits.  God chastens his children toward obedience with a view to hasten repentance and restoration  in relationship.  Captivity's purpose was to cause God's people to repent and return to Him on His terms.   The gematria value of the  number 111 is instructive.   If we have understanding, we know we can read this number as words.  Scripture confirms this methodology as understanding which produces wisdom.[39]

 

The Hebrew phase "the beginning of wisdom" has a numeric value of 111.   Psalm 111:10 declares: "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever."  Other words and phrases which share this value include:  wonderful[40], the Lord my God[41], children of the Living God[42] and the blood of Jesus[43] .    What is the hidden message.  The captivities were God's judgment based on His wisdom producing reverence and right living in His covenant people.  This wisdom would ultimately be expressed in His love for the children as He would manifest divine forgiveness as the gracious Passover atoning offer of His only Son, Jesus, the Anointed Most Holy One[44].

 

Subtracting 111 from 601 produces 490 years.  This is the second period of Covenant Time.

 

King David to Temple Rebuilding 445 B.C.: 490 Years

 

From David's dedication of the altar in 1005 B.C. on Mt. Moriah until Artaxerxes' command to restore and rebuild the Jerusalem in 445 B.C. was 560 years.  However, we must deduct the 70 years when Israel was exiled in Babylon.   The third period of Covenant Time is determined by subtracting 70 years from 560 years which results in 490 years.

 

Israel's exile was the result of failing to keep God's commandments including the Sabbath rest of the land.

 

Daniel's 70 Weeks Prophecy: 490 Years

 

The 70 Weeks prophecy of Daniel spans a 490 year period.  It is comprised of 70 periods of 7 years,  representing seventy Sabbath periods.  This 490-year period differs from the three preceding 490-year periods.   Those periods were associated with Abraham, Moses and David and their respective promises.  God's redemptive plan promises were specifically addressed in these three men.  All periods were forward-looking to the first and second comings of Israel's Messiah, Christ.

 

Daniel's prophecy is not directly associated with the promises made to Abraham, Moses or David.  It is a prophetic promise given to Daniel which would indirectly and ultimately fulfill the direct promises to Abraham, Moses and David.  It surely follows the pattern of the prior 490-year periods.   Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy speaks to the first and second comings of Israel's Messiah.

 

In Daniel 9:24 we find six items addressed in the prophecy: (1) to finish the transgression, (2)  to make an end of sins, (3) to make reconciliation for iniquity, (4) to bring in everlasting righteousness, (5) to seal up the vision and prophecy, and (6) to anoint the most Holy.  It appears as a summation prophecy.  The period is termed a "determined time"[45].  It appears to be the last quarter, if you will excuse the use of an athletic term.  It unifies the promises of Abraham, Moses and David, in Christ.

 

In Daniel 9:26 we see Christ crucified, as the Lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world[46].   In His offer, having kept all the Law, He fulfilled the Law[47].   He became an High Priest after the order of Melchizedek[48], the priest which Abraham honored with his tithes[49]. Abraham had seen the type of future Christ during the first 490-year period.  The Law of Moses had been fulfilled producing a new High Priest fulfilling another "oath prophecy[50]".  And the Davidic covenant of King David,  is a type of eternally enthroned Messianic king,  the throne of which, Messiah Jesus will ultimately ascend.

 

In Daniel 9:27 we learn of "the covenant" which will be confirmed with many for one week.  What are we to make of this covenant and he who confirms it ?  The love story must continue.  God has not finished with His people, Israel.   Verse 27 is the end of Daniel's prophecy.  What happens to Abraham's promises ?  Did the fulfilling of the Law in Verse 26 annul God's promises ?  If these Abrahamic promises are not fulfilled here, then where and when ?  Do we just say God will do it later in the Millennium or Eternity ?   Surely the fullness of God's promises extend into Eternity.   We have to ask ourselves what is the purpose of this last verse ?  Obviously, the Book of Revelation is the expanded version of Verse 27.   So we must look there for the answer.  We cannot run off and create some private interpretation which fails to align with the "big picture". Prophecy is of no private interpretation.  We must compare Scripture with Scripture.

 

I see word pictures as I study and search the Scriptures.  In Verse 27, I see Christ standing in front of the verse.  I see Him standing at the end of the verse.   God invites this vision.  Christ, the Word of God, the Alpha and Omega, the Aleph Tav, stands in Revelation 1:8 and at the end in Revelation 22:13.  He is the beginning and the end[51].  Therefore, He stands, as previously stated, in Verse 27.   Christ is the spirit of prophecy[52].  This means all prophecy testifies to Him.  Daniel's prophecy is the greatest prophecy in all Scripture because it commences the "Genesis correction event".   Christ stands in Genesis 1:1.  He is named in Word 4, as the "Aleph Tav", His proper name, as the Word of God.  Interestingly, this word is not translated in English Bibles.  It is omitted.  Fortunately, we have John to thank for helping us understand this name.

 

It is in the Book of Revelation and John 1:1.  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God[53].  Then, in the sixth word we see Him again in His role as "God Man".  He is the "Vav Aleph Tav"[54].  Vav is the sixth Hebrew word representing man who was made on Day 6.  The Vav is the Hebrew pictograph symbol of a nail meaning to connect or to bridge.  Notice that this image is of Christ holding out his arms with nail holes in his hands as the bridge between the words heaven and earth.

 

John tells us again about his image.  He says: "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me[55]."  Simply said, if you want to get to heaven, you must accept His hand and pass through Him.  Grace, grace, it is all grace[56], an expression of divine forgiveness.  Forgiveness 490 times is the expression Jesus used to describe God's gracious form of divine forgiveness[57].  Divine forgiveness happens in Daniel 9:27 unto them [all Israel[58]] that turn from transgression in Jacob[59].

 

Sixty-nine of Daniel's 70 Weeks had transpired then Messiah Christ was  "cut off[60]" by a crucifixion death.  After the 69th week, God's counting of Covenant Time was suspended.   The rejection of the Messiah was Israel's [Jacob's] greatest transgression.  Israel was blinded[61] and set aside for a time[62].

 

Daniel's 70th week is in the future for the nation of Israel.  This week will also be known as the Time of Jacob's Trouble[63] and the Tribulation as described in Matthew 24 and the Book of Revelation.

 

This week will begin when God determines the "fullness of the Gentiles[64]" has come in and the covenant relationship is restored with Israel, on God's terms.  God may simply "confirm" the Abrahamic promises, yet once again or perhaps a modern day Daniel, a messianic Jew, will intercede for Israel, in prayer and God will act.  This is surely the inference we are necessarily compelled to make given the three preceding 490-year patterns.

 

God stopped keeping His covenant or determined time when Israel nationally rejected Christ.  God intends to save remnant Israel as His people[65].  He will begin this work with Daniel 9:27.  Remnant Israel will return to the mighty God[66].   He is the "mighty God" of covenants[67].  Jehovah  or Yhwh  is His personal covenant name, that he uses with His friends, those who know him, who are in covenant relationship with Him.  His name is the Mighty God[68].

 

Daniel 9:27, Daniel's 70th week begins with the declaration: "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:"

 

This statement affirms that Covenant Time will begin once again and be counted for the last seven year period.  God's relationship with Israel will, after some 1,984 or more years, be restored[69].  The prophets declare this:

"18Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy.

19 He will turn again, he will have compassion upon us; he will subdue our iniquities; and thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea.

20 Thou wilt perform the truth to Jacob, and the mercy to Abraham, which thou hast sworn unto our fathers from the days of old."    (Micah 7:18-20)

Conclusion:

 

We began the first period of 490-years with God's promises to Abraham and end with God's implementation of promises to Abraham and his "seed" in Daniel's 70th Week.

 

Micah announces the covenant love story between God and Israel bringing God's redemption plan to a dramatic finish at the end of Daniel's 70th Week.  But, the ending is just beginning.  God has big plans for His people !

 

Jeremiah declares:

 

"And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."  (Jeremiah 31:34)

 

From the foregoing discussion we can discern that God measures time differently.  It is a measurement of time from the perspective of Israel.  This is God's Covenant Time.  The clock only runs when Israel is in a right or determined relationship with God.   This is not a hard concept.  In fact, most athletic games keep "game time" which excludes "time-outs" for a variety of events.

 

We can know that unbelief and disobedience results in judgment and exile when God suspends the counting of  His "Covenant Time" with Israel.

 

Jesus came to tell Israel about God's righteousness.  They did not want God's righteousness.  They wanted to skip righteousness and go straight to the head of nations in glorious peace and dominion[70].

 

Israel rejected Christ at His first coming.  However, the remnant, the true and obedient Israel, will receive Him during the Time of Jacob's Trouble[71].  The love story continues.  God rules.

 

God requires righteousness before He will bring peace.  The King of Righteousness, the King of Peace is coming soon !

 

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There are a few that are now saying that the Tribulation is not 7 years and/or the Tribulation has already started. There is also an increasing number if mid tribbers/pre wrathers on there. :wacko:

Be careful when reading 5 doves as there are some strange ideas on there.

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Fair warning Arthur, indeed!

Some glory in the intellectual ascent of scriptures, some in the international forums, and some to introduce new and controversial teachings!

Again test every Spirit of revelation!

TR

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Those who think we are already in the Tribulation are probably confusing persecution with God's Wrath. Throughout much of the Church's history there have been some pretty significant periods of persecution. Just look at what the 1st century Church had to endure. We have become such a soft society that we think we will never experience persecution, at least not in a first world country. But Jesus said His followers would know persecution. We very well may experience a good bit more of it before the Rapture. Only God knows for sure. But if we stay in His Word and actually read it and study it we clearly see that we are not going to be here when His Wrath is poured out on this world. Cupcake parties may be over for the Christian but that is not the same thing a God's Wrath.

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True that!

Many not chosen to be leaders enjoy having a following!

Don't follow me, but rather Christ as I am only a follower myself!

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