Fig Tree Generation Drop dead date. This one is for you TR! I , like everyone else, am watching trying to figure out what seems to be the most obvious end times prophecy, the fig tree generation. Most solid prophecy teachers always tell us to “watch Israel” - that this is the best indicator of what time is it, and we have all been watching. The fact that the fig tree represents Israel in the Bible is irrefutable, but the wild card in question is what is the length of a generation? And when did the generational countdown start? And this seems to be why TR started this thread. We just saw the May 14th date come and go again, but it got me thinking maybe I should crunch a few numbers and see what is the absolute last available drop dead date for the 80 year fig tree generation to still be valid, and to see if it is busted or possibly still valid. So if we use May 14, 1948 as the start date (I find it hard to believe that it could be the 1967 date since the fig tree does not represent Jerusalem but Israel, plus I don’t see how this can drag on another 19 years) plus 80 years equals May 14, 2028 - but Israel turns 80 in 2028 but could remain 80 up until May 14, 2029 so we have to consider that date as a possible end date still offering validity o the prophecy. Let’s work it out from the Hebrew side of things and see if we can drag it out any longer than that - so on the Hebrew calendar Israel’s birthday was Iyar 5, 5708, again adding 80 years would be Iyar 5 5788, but since Israel remains 80 until the end of that full year, the last possible date should be Iyar 5, 5789 - this would convert to April 20, 2029 so we can see that the Gregorian date of May 14, 2029 would be the later of the two dates. Using the time/date website to subtract the 2520 days of tribulation renders these results: Using the earlier, Hebrew date of Iyar 5/ April 20, 2029 - 2520 days gives us a date of May 27, 2022 when the tribulation might start if the 80 year fig tree calculation is still valid. Using the later date of May 14, 2029 - 2520 days gives us a date of June 20, 2022 as the latest possible date the tribulation can start and still have that 80 year fig tree prophecy pegged to Israel as valid. So in my opinion we are not out of time for that prophecy to be valid, we may be quickly approaching it however. It would seem that sometime between May 27 and June 20 the rapture should happen if indeed the 2520 days of Tribulation are to begin and conclude before Israel turns 81. Thoughts? Feedback? The only real thing I see nixing that is the shemitah always starts on F.O.T. in Sept/Oct. So a random start date for the trib in May/June doesnt fit the shemitah pattern. Could work for the rapture, but not the trib. Also I've often had this weird opinion on the generation thingy. Yes the Bible says 70 years or 80 if you have the strength. But thats a different verse than this generation shall not pass that sees all these things. So combining the 2 verses isnt neccessarily accurate. God could easily keep someone born on May 14 1948 alive for 100+ years and still have that prophecy be accurate and true that somone who was alive at the birth of Israel didnt die and witnessed the 2nd coming. Yes rapture any day now (really hoping for Pentacost or sooner) , trib needs to start this Sept or we wait another 7 years for it to start...... and I have a very very difficult time seeing this world survive another 7 years before the trib kicks off. I do agree with you Taureauchien that we don’t know for certain if we can link those scriptures and hence all our frustration lol! I also have had some of the same inclinations as you that someone living to 100 years old, but I have a little bit different of a take. I don’t think it could be someone born on May 14, 1948 but I think if we are not basing it on that date, then I think whatever the date is would have to come well before that. Here’s why. In the fig tree prophecy Jesus says “So you also, when you see all these things, know that it is near—at the doors! Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.” I emphasized “when you see” linking this condition to “this generation” - so conditionally the generation that “sees” all these things will not pass away - so we have to ask, sees all what things? In context the thing they are being told some generation will witness is not only the return of Christ, but with the context of the fig tree, the rebirth of Israel - we probably all agree on this much. However I started considering this some years ago - would someone born on May 14, 1948 qualify? Did they “see” the rebirth of Israel as a newborn, infant, toddler or even small child? I think it might be possible for a small child of Jewish parents to understand the significance of Israel’s rebirth if their parents explained it to them when they were young - but as a baseline I think most of us are pretty oblivious to world events like the rebirth of a nation well into our teens. I remember I was probably 18 or 20 before I started paying attention to world events and so I have often thought that the fig tree generation, if we are basing it on date of birth, probably started several years earlier than 1948 so that those who would witness the rebirth of Israel and understand geo-politically the big deal that just happened, would also live to see the second coming. If I had to label it, I would think that this equates to the WW2 generation, which there are not many left of these days. But for the sake of argument, I wanted to crunch the numbers to see if the 80 year maximum was at this point “busted” or still “plausible”. I also cannot see how it all would fit in with a Shmitta timeframe and have considered that the second coming will likely be in the fall in coordination with the fall feasts, but then again, Jesus did say the days would be cut short and we just don’t know how that will be accomplished either. I have often wondered if we even have the day counts right we know that 2520 days are assigned, but how might that be cut short? If 2300 or 2400 days in, God decided, ok this is enough I’m sending in my Son now - would anyone argue about that and say “Hey, wait a minute, you owe us another 100 days!” Of course not, and it is even in our world the prerogative of the judge to grant “time served” - so I have considered that the heavenly Judge could do the same if He wanted to. I have often pondered, suppose, hypothetically, based upon the 80 year scenario, the tribulation was due to end May 14, 2029 and then in the fall of 2028, the heavenly Judge proclaims “time served” and sends the Son back to fulfill the 2028 fall feasts, this shortening the days and sending Him back on a day when no one is expecting Him (no man knows the day or hour) - would anyone complain about that? I’m just spitballing ideas trying to peek into the things that prophets and angels have longed to understand, knowing that I probably never will. When it comes right down to it, we really don’t even know how time really works, we only experience it from our perspective and when God works His plan out I think it will leave us all marveling and scratching our heads at the same time. Sometimes I feel like crunching numbers and pointing out dates is a nice pastime and both rewarding and frustrating at the same time, but sometimes I think it is something that will constantly frustrate us because I don’t know that we can envision exactly how it will all go down, seeing through the mirror darkly as we do. So Derrick I am not a long time pilot but both my husband and I like to fly. He actually has his commercial, twin engine license. We are both out of compliance right now, mostly because of the severe increase in gas prices and post covid when hardly anyone could take a craft up. Anyway, yes we understand the shifting of the runways according to the degree to navigate the downturn for landing. It is true and tower records can validate the changes per the FAA. Do you ever listen to MonkeyWerks? I follow Him to watch all the aircraft flight patterns and increasing awareness of “activity” by the parties that be. A lot of what God does follows a pattern, He is very mathematical as we would understand things. :popcorn In Daniel there is also a mention of an extra 30 then an additional 45 days after the 2520...could that be sometime between June- FOT of 2029?
Matthew 24:33-34
