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Hate to jump on here just for this, and hate to start a new topic honestly, but I need y'all to pray and I would like to know if anyone has had any similar experience on any end of this (neighbor, abused, police officer, social worker, even former abuser) anyone who can give us Godly counsel on one of the worst experiences I've ever had.  Our family moved to a city and are in a one year lease now at a very nice new construction duplex.  It was such an answer to prayer to find a place in a nice area to rent (& let us have our pets) since God didn't lead us to buy a house after trying to for a couple months.  It was great until we realized the people who moved in next to us weren't just banging around a lot because of hanging pictures and moving furniture around.  We've started hearing crying and distressed yelling and occasional angry yelling.  We prayed, we looked online at information on what to do, we went to the police department hoping to talk with an officer about the specifics and get guidance & help and the lady at the front told us we can call 911, but they won't bust the door open or anything like that...we told her our fears of being known and being in danger because we are the only ones with a shared wall with them...she said we can request no police contact with us so they won't come to our door to talk with us...she agreed that the lady has to want to leave when I said maybe she could scream if the cops come to the door & they'd somehow help her- but I'd read they typically will not press charges against the man.  I've have gone from terrified balled up at night unable to sleep to pacing around the house armed with my pistol...have prayed hours for them and about them...I can't get a good recording of anything with my phone...I feel like hell moved in next door...like there's a horror movie in real life and I don't know how to stop it...it feels and sounds like only God sending an angel to reveal themselves in full armor and sword could put the fear of God into this man and stop the evil...Myself and my daughter are home over 12 hours a day without my husband and we are all scared of becoming targets somehow...We want so badly to help!  Does calling the police to knock on their door do any good at all???  I'm ok with some risk in order to help someone, but I have to consider my daughter, too, who sometimes is here alone in the day or evening....I hate this!  I have no experience with this type of thing and I am physically sick from it- sick to my stomach & close to passing out from hyperventilating this evening- my hubby and I are heartbroken, angry and on edge...we truly hate the wickedness in this world and desire God's wrath to boil over to punish the unrepentant evil people!!!  I pray He saves many even now- including the neighbors spiritually- and raptures/rescues us who love Him and want His Way so very soon!

Also, if there's screaming and you fear for someones life and you call the police, if they aren't here immediately, then it's too late to prevent, and if it stops because he stops doing it, then when they show up they won't hear anything and either way, he's not going to open the door...and unless she's restrained in some way which is a fear i get, why doesn't she leave???  there are 3 doors out and 4 windows (one level) the back yard is shared with us w/ just a dividing fence that has a gate between us you can't lock and you can see thru- she could go thru all the back yards thru these gates...

we are thinking about trying to talk w/ neighbors (we don't know anybody- all of us just moved in) who are on the side of their side/front door & windows to see if they know if she leaves the house ever...it makes me angry, sad, yes, but also angry if she can leave and doesn't and yet i can't let myself dwell on the worse possibility that she physically can't...this is just so insane!  i hate it!  i cannot understand the evil!!!  it's terrifying!!!

it's been quiet quite a while now and i had called my hubby earlier and he should be home soon now...just thank you for "listening" and for any and all prayers and if you feel lead to share any advice from experience, we will pray about what you tell us...thank you in advance...

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How long has this been going on?
Two things you mentioned I would encourage you to consider. 1) talking with the neighbors to find out if anyone else hears this. 2) Calling the police. If that man knows his actions are being heard outside of his apartment then perhaps he will reconsider what he is doing.
You mentioned having pets. Are any of them dogs?
You may also want to consider talking to your landlord. They may be able to do something about this because it sounds like their property is being damaged.

Prayers for your and their situation! :prayer-hands:

 

 

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Until the Lord leads and acts in this situation I pray for peace for you and your daughter!  Speak the name of Jesus frequently and annoint every portal and entrance to your place with annointing oil!  Praying that the Lord himself rebuke whatever evil is being done and that the Lord rebuke any and all demonic possession and activity!  Document and record if you can, any and all suspicious activity!  Indeed speak with neighbors and log down any of their complaints!  If you know his name you can look on-line to see if there any outstanding charges of abuse and or warrants against him!  The more documentation that you have will motivate police action!  Unless he is a police officer?!  TR

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My thoughts in saying what to do Lord, are:

Make the landlord/mgmt aware. Either for the assurance from them that they can and will do whatever they can do, or, that they might let you out of your lease for the fear, the anguish and lack of peace you now have. Or, see if the landlord has another unit for you, at the furthest distance from that place. I would ask them if they can somehow investigate for the sake of their community, to come to their own conclusions about what is going on. This puts it in their lap, and should keep you uninvolved, as you are only reporting the situation to them for whatever they can legally do, if they choose to.

I feel, to keep yourselves safe, if you talk to any neighbor, I myself would only approach them in the terms of asking. Without giving any details to them, just asking the closest one's in the area, if they have been hearing any unusual noises at various times. You don't have to share your suspicions or details with them. If they are hearing nothing, then you can leave it there, not giving out any more information that could eventually circle back to the abusive man, triggering him to react toward neighbors.

Do you have a church there? Consider asking the pastors to pray over the whole situation, and for everyone's protection. That Gods will would be done.

I'm so very sorry grateful! :rose: I/we, hate the works of the devil working through mankind!

The police likely can do nothing until an emergency situation occurs. That's just the way it is I believe. You told them and the reason the front desk told you to call 911, is because they won't intervene until a situation happens in that unit, sad as that is. It's up to the landlord to take it off your hands and act, if they legally can. You can request to them that your concern is kept confidential for obvious reasons.

We can/will pray the Blood of Jesus over your home and over all your going out and coming in. We will pray for you protection and that God's angels surround you and all that concerns you. We will ask the Lord for His intervention to save this couple and bring this to an end.

Listen for the Lords still small voice speaking to your spirit. If you sense Him impressing you to do or not do something, follow His leading.

Praying for God's leading, comfort and deliverance for all in this.

Hugs and love from us all. :bible :rose:

 

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Is this happening every day or night and is the pattern the same at a certain time?   Have you noticed if they are inviting other people over?  Do you see the female outside and does she look sad all the time or have bruises?   Does this duplex home have separate basements?  I don’t want to scare you but here is another possibility …  could the screams be actually coming from some kidnap person and its not the female spouse or girlfriend but they are both torturing this poor kidnap victim instead?   Or could they be watching horror movies and have the volume up .. but then again you heard banging on the walls so that wouldn’t be from a horror movie.   I would notify the landlord of your concerns and see what they do about it.  If they don’t do anything … I would notify the police and mention “could it be a possible kidnap victim being tortured”?   I think they will be able to get a search warrant and case the place.

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It's so encouraging to get on here this morning and see that our brothers and sisters in Christ have taken the time and effort to read my ramblings to share our burden by taking it to our Lord and sharing thoughts about the situation.  I can't thank you enough!

I want to, but am terrified to call 911 if I hear the lady again because it does sound like an emergency at times.  I could take the dogs (sadly only small ones) & daughter and call from somewhere else in town so that we aren't here, but then again, we do have to come back.  I'm extremely scared this guy is going to come banging on my back glass door or breaking in to attack us in retaliation. It's like sharing a house- their bedroom is right by ours- our windows are less than 2 feet off ground and glass doors right there in back yard.  Complete easy access.

We aren't sure about involving the housing management.  I may call my sister who is an attorney.  She isn't submissive to or sensitive to the Holy Spirit though I don't think.  Talking to a pastor is a good idea.  My dad is a chaplain...he is protective of us- i texted him some about it and doesn't want us to do more than pray for them and wait it out til sell house and move.  We do need to get in a good Biblical church very soon.

I have thought of lots of terrible possibilities of what's going on in there and what could happen if this or that...there seems no good options other than God's direct intervention...we can't move anywhere else until our house sells- used almost all our savings to get into this place w/ deposits & now have 2 homes utilities & payments...I'd like to go back to our old home and get it nicer & pack more that's left there to get it on the market if the lady (whose realtor looked at it) doesn't want to buy it so we can get it sold and to get away from this- I had heart palpitations and headache last night- my daughter leaves headphones on constantly and "escapes" with games on her phone & i'm so distracted and upset (I cry daily now- & I'm on the verge of crying almost always) i don't feel capable of helping this lady or even my own daughter because of my own difficulty handling this...it is a very unhealthy situation for all involved to say the least.  I can't leave my husband here by himself right now because he can barely walk and is getting an MRI hopefully Monday to see what's wrong. (He still works though.)   (Possibly from a fall during moving.) Even if he was fine, I hate the idea of him here at night without anyone else to help if the guy broke in or something...he's a pretty hard sleeper too and the dogs would be with me.

I've read it's recommended to cause a distraction during abusive behaviors like set a car alarm off.  If I hear her today, I might try pushing the panic button on my car remote thing in the driveway? They say (info on domestic violence online) the very best thing to do is actually to develop a relationship with the lady and show concern & provide hotline numbers and local shelter info & ask if she wants us to call the police when we hear her in distress.  If you know them they can give you a few personal items and you make a bag at your place them so if they decide to leave they'll have it & you could take them to police or shelter I guess.  I've never seen the lady or the man.  I've been inside a lot cuz of covid and trying to unpack & fit some things places (much smaller than our house.) I go in the little back yard a lot, but they are never in theirs.  My husband saw the lady when the leasing management showed the house and then saw the man thru a front door window when he went after over 4 hours of blaring "music" with extreme base the night before Thanksgiving.  The guy did not open the door.  Hubby said your music is very loud.  Guy said say what?- this repeated 4 times and then he said yeah, yeah, yeah, walked away, turned off noise and it's never been that loud again.  Hubby said he had probably been high or drunk and passed out.  That's it for any contact or seeing them.  I want to get video cameras at least in case they do something to our cars or come on our side- we aren't very tech-y though...

I need to go make another cup of coffee and pray and read my Bible.  It's nice and quiet at the moment.  I know my God is able and willing to bless us with His wisdom and guidance and if we trust and obey Him, we can leave the consequences to Him as Dr. Charles Stanley says.  No matter what, I know He is good, He loves us and He is ultimately in control and will bring good out of the situation for those of us who love Him...He is giving me a heart that breaks like His does for the hurting so that I hate what He hates more...He has reminded me of all the danger I put myself in in my past that He protected me from because I was His daughter and He had good plans for me even when I did not turn to Him and tried to meet my own perceived needs in my own ways without acknowledging Him...I do thank Him for His grace and protection- I can't imagine the grief I caused the Holy Spirit and the hard work my guardian angel had to do to keep me from ending up in some kind of situation like next door.  It's only by His grace that I'm on this side of that wall.

 

 

 

 

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I’m praying that this noise pollution situation improves and that your home sells quickly so you can move out of this nightmare place.

Or better yet … that the rapture will happen this Hanukkah or Christmas!

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Thank you, Geri!  I had same fears you talked about because of the wide open border and so many people being trafficked and beholden/enslaved/threatened to/by coyotes/cartel etc.  I won't discuss any more about all the fears that have crossed my mind.  The banging sounds like kicking a wall, so I start thinking someone could be locked up or something! (No idea how police would ever know enough to get a warrant and enter without permission from the occupants...& no idea how we could help them know.  we can't see their front/side door or see out towards the street where our driveways are...don't know if more than them go there- only know of 2 different vehicles have been there at different times)

If it is just one man and one woman, the online help for domestic violence talk about calling the police sometimes making it worse for the woman and sometimes strangers trying to help are in fact in life threatening danger....they all talk about it being the abused person's choice and the need to respect their choices but to offer non-judgemental unconditional support and help if/when needed AND wanted/requested.  I have no way to meet this lady though.  I may call one of the organizations that deal with this stuff- maybe even the one that is local....or go there and try talk with someone.  I'm absolutely exhausted though and can't think well enough to go or do anything at the moment & have to try to get some more sleep.  (From what I understand that is how an abused person gets- they wear them down so they won't do anything and they feel isolated and hopeless and helpless...maybe at some point I will get involved at the shelter place so I can help those who do reach out for help....sadly I just read that it takes average of 7 times for someone to leave before it becomes permanent- my husband's family member went through something like that- they'd move her out and then she'd go back & put the kids through who knows what.)

I feel like I'm abandoning my mentally ill daughter by needing to go back to bed because I will have to turn on multiple sound machines to not hear the random banging & loud voice that's started again...she is on medicine and seems to be ok w/ her headphones on...I can't believe this is happening...

I'm going to stop writing so much on here...I need to call my own family and talk when I have the energy to- didn't want to scare them and haven't wanted to talk on phone...we don't have any family in this state.  I'm sorry for too much telling on here...but thank y'all for prayers- they do matter- there is spiritual activity far more powerful than we realize with the prayers of us saints by God's grace and faith in Him.  May His will be done.

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(their garage is almost empty we've seen when door open, so they can easily fit 2 vehicles in it, so no way to know who is there or not when...not sure if could have a camera that went their direction too to their driveway)  also, the door to neighbor in house on their side is right across from these people's door so if i go to try to talk w/ the other house, i could easily be seen and heard by these people...i truly hate this...thank you for prayers...i'm not going to update on here probably for quite a while now...thank y'all...if something major happens/changes i will try to say something at some point...i trust God...prayers are powerful...He will tell us what to do and when to do it and what not to do each step of the way just as He has with this whole move- it's been so difficult, but He is clearly helping us when we let Him

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Though it may seem the Lord is absent through all of this, He is still on the throne!  Angels at His beck and call!  And His love for you and your family will never end!  TR

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