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I was just reading a conversation over on the RITA facebook side ...  these 2 watchers believe Trump will have 2 terms in office and keep many subdue (Iran, Russia, China, etc) until his term is completed.  They consider the 2 gates in this verse as 2 doors symbolic of 2 terms. :feedback  Just wondering your thoughts on this?   I’m sharing mine :groan  noooo ... I prefer the rapture to happen in 2020 not 2025!

Isaiah 45:1
Thus saith the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

 

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I'd be very cautious about applying verses pertaining to Cyrus to Donald Trump.  Actually, I mean I would not do it at all.

Yes, I'm aware that Cyrus was a gentile king who helped the Jews, and Donald Trump is a gentile president who is helping Israel, yet the two are not the same.  Even if you point out Biblical "types" that doesn't mean they have to follow the same path.

Anything can happen.  That should be obvious.  God's plan from everlasting does not depend upon Donald Trump or any other factor.

I think Trump is well positioned to be elected again, although there are no guarantees.  That will not determine when the rapture takes place at all.

Isaiah 45:1 was written about 150 years before Cyrus was born.  When the verse was shown to him, he was greatly impressed.

The gates referred to are the city gates of Babylon.  They have nothing to do with being elected for two terms.

“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”

We have too much "Humpty Dumpty" theology going on.

https://www.studylight.org/commentary/isaiah/45-1.html

To open before him the two leaved gates, etc. "That I may open before him the valves; and the gates shall not be shut" - The gates of Babylon within the city leading from the streets to the river, were providentially left open, when Cyrus's forces entered the city in the night through the channel of the river, in the general disorder occasioned by the great feast which was then celebrated; otherwise, says Herodotus, 1:191, the Persians would have been shut up in the bed of the river, and taken as in a net, and all destroyed. And the gates of the palace were opened imprudently by the king's orders, to inquire what was the cause of the tumult without; when the two parties under Gobrias and Gadatas rushed in, got possession of the palace, and slew the king. - Xenoph., Cyrop. 7 p. 528.

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:thankyou David for confirming what this chapter is really all about.  After posting the question I did read the entire chapter to try to get familiar with the circumstances.  Then I read 2 on-line commentaries and 1 modern day watcher to get their take.  They were all in alignment with what you just posted.  The 2 gates were to keep the enemy out of the city and the the night Babylon got capture was because the keeper of the gates failed to lock them because a revelry party was happening.  The modern day watcher said the 2 gates have nothing whatsoever to do with if Trump should get 2 terms.  People are just twisting things and trying to apply the number 2 to represent 2 terms to feed their own wishful desires.

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Indeed David and Geri7.  Like I said on another thread, many who dabble in interpreting prophecy are guilty of gambling with scripture!

Many can indeed be presumptuous with prophecy, IMHO!

TR

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:amen:  T.R. I believe the Lord takes it seriously with those who dabble with the interpretation of Scripture to satisfy their wishes.   I felt discouraged when I read that conversation earlier this morning.  You wonder how many others read it too and perhaps they will give up looking and watching.  I wouldn’t have because I’ve been watching a long time but a new believer I could see might give up.  No wonder the Lord warns ... let no man take your crown!

Revelation 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

 

And there is a blessing given to those who love reading the book of Revelation.  I had a saved cousin and older brother rebuke me because I love to read the book of Revelation and I talk about Bible prophecy.

Revelation 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

 

Have to wonder if purposely misquoting and changing the meaning of the text falls under this warning?  Or does this pertain to the book of Revelation only?

Revelation 22:18-19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

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Indeed His Word is a glorious gift!  And I certainly don't mean to belittle anyone's efforts at understanding His Word!  That's not my intent.

But rather to instill that fear of the Lord with regards to His Word!

TR

 

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