Interesting take on the Donald. I lived most of my life in North New Jersey ... a hop skip and jump from Manhattan. I must have only saw the good side of him as well as others I knew. They all liked him as well. In my eyes he got extra brownie points because he was a diehard Yankee fan. :whistle: Seriously though .. no negative talk about him at all whatsoever. Even my aunt’s ex-husband used to own a construction company and had the big contracts. One was forever doing construction work on the Twin Towers. There were small fires often caused by people forgetting to turn off their personal desk electric heaters or the coffee maker. 😉 He even said there is no way the towers came down like they did without the help of explosives strategically planted in the buildings on various floors. My uncle also got the contract to renovate Bally’s Casino in Atlantic City and knew Donald personally and voted for him. Bally’s Casino is located on 1900 Pacific Avenue just a block over from the Taj Mahal (now called the Hard Rock Casino & Resort) on 1000 Boardwalk and Trump Plaza and Casino was located on Boardwalk as well. (But the Plaza and Casino was demolished in a controlled implosion on February 17, 2021). Just looking at the map and seeing the familiar street names ... I feel like getting out the old monopoly board game. :mdrmdr: I was fond of the names Marvin Gardens and Park Place and tried my hardest to buy those real estate properties. :yes: Most of us here on this forum supported Trump because of his policies. He supported policies that upheld the law, protected the unborn, supported Christians and Israel and finally worked on getting trade deals that were fair to Americans. I remember Trump well from the 80s and I really believe from what I saw in him that somewhere between then and when he was president something changed. I believe he got saved, and I believe that like us he isn't a perfect Christian.....and truthfully I would cringe if every thing I said and did was displayed on the media every day. I sincerely believe that Trump believed that the vaccine would be a good thing...and I also believe that most of the scientists involved in the process desire for it to be a good thing too. Unfortunately there are people in lofty places with nefarious plans and following the princes and principalities of the enemy. One thing I heard is that Biden reportedly does not have access to the Pentagon or the nuc codes, and for some reason there is a fence around the capital building that remains even though there is no evidence of any uprising.... I don't know what that means and don't know if we will be here long enough to care.....:unsure: I don't believe the policies from the democrats are good, not for the country, not for businesses and not for Christians. So we watch the wheel spin and see if any of the movements of leaders and countries gives us more reason to look up....and in that aspect I agree it is all theater. :popcorn I am hoping that soon and very soon there will be only One who leads, One we serve and One on Whose command the trumpet is blown and we are taken to be with Him. He is our Blessed Hope, the only Hope for mankind. :rose: I think Donald was the best President the U.S. ever saw. Second to Ronald Reagan. :yes: Donald accomplished so much in those 4 years despite all the nasty name calling from the other party and the news media. He was also a true friend of Israel and for Christian causes. It was a blessing to see Bibles being read in the White House and ministers surrounding him with prayer. Sadly, we will never see that ever again during the church age. I also lean that he did have a conversion experience for him to talk about the real meaning of Christmas ... all about Jesus. And he encouraged everyone to say Merry Christmas once more since the former administration spent 8 years removing that holiday phrase out of our society. I certainly didn't want to insult anyone else's decisions. I cheered for Trump and his successes like all conservatives. However, there was no protection of the voting system while he was in office. He was elected under a cloud of suspicion that the election was stolen. So he had bipartisan support, presumably, to address voter ID in the first year. He did not. He fought for Betsy Devos, a champion of homeschooling, for the SOE She had an opportunity to review the socialism growing in our public schools. She could have fought for school choice. She could have fought for homeschooling rights. She did nothing. The schools are a breeding ground for anti American sentiment and that became clear with all the rioting youth. Trump enacted good policies that will easily be undone. I strongly feel that because of his antics, conservatives are now in a worse place than before. We are now considered dangerous when we are the most law abiding of the population. To me, it's all political theater meant to distract us as the original plan keeps progressing in the background. Geri9, my aunt had a rooming house down the street from The Playboy. My cousin was a metal worker on that project. Those were great times initially. Remember Steel Pier and the diving horse? The Peanut Man? "Watch the tram car, please!" Trump did a lot of benevolent things for his communities. However, he used bankruptcy repeatedly to stiff small companies. That's why I cringed at him. But I became a fan. And a defender. And now I realize that what happened in the aftermath of his loss shows some egregious oversights that may have addressed these problems. A national voter ID, that's free, was absolutely justifiable. Encouraging and funding states would have changed this election. It would have protected us from the illegals pulling into my state without any accountability, if ALL residents needed a photo ID. A pro American curriculum in every school was absolutely needed! But their alternative facts are what is taught. Yeah, it felt good to cheer for a while. But this election was stolen on his watch, when he had four years to work with governors and congressmen who insisted the system was flawed. I think Jared and Ivanka used him. But I'll stop because this is not a Trump board and because our Lord is our king. Again. I didn't wish to insult. It's just that when I looked at where we are today and worked backwards, it seemed pretty clear that those oversights were necessary to get us here. 
