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I don't watch this guy's videos anymore, I just don't remember the reason why.

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This video is OK.  Yes, he has said some things that don't sit right with me. But I don't know enough to refute what he says every time I don't agree. We should discuss it.

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He said in this one ... the 6th seal will be broken soon. And we know that is not true since none of the seals have been broken yet.  The Church is in heaven watching Jesus break the first one ... in Rev. 6 and the first seal will be the AC coming on the scene ... and he sure hasn’t been revealed yet.  I wonder if Steve believes the seals get opened backwards? :scratch:

And sounds like he only pushes for a Pentecost rapture.  But contradicts himself by saying when the peace deal is complete the G/M players will be in motion on the attack and that could happen soon since they are at the ready.  So does he think the church still will be here to watch it if it happens soon and we need to wait until Pentecost 2021 for the rapture?  To me he was all over the place with this particular youtube.

 

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I just won't listen to him again either.

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Oh, I’m glad you posted his youtube because he is still informative and like you said we can still discuss things. :yes:    I’ve seen a few of his youtubes in the past but never realized he wasn’t a pre-tribber.  So it was a shock to hear him say in this youtube that G/M judgment is connected to the 6th seal (God’s wrath).

I do agree with him that the rapture date is an appointed day not just any old day.  However, he firmly thinks its only Pentecost.  Whereas I think it could be Ascension Day or ......?

Also he says we are living in the days of Noah right now - with the love of many grows cold, love of self, love of money, evil days.

I agree with him that I think Trump needs to win the election to keep the peace process going on schedule.

And I do agree with him also that the G/M players are at the ready, Turkey desires Jerusalem and we don’t need to wait for any walls/barriers to come down.

Loz and Savedat33 brought to my attention this passage

God gives His answer about the walls ... Ezekiel 38:18-21:

This is what will happen in that day: When Gog attacks the land of Israel, my hot anger will be aroused, declares the Sovereign Lord. 19 In my zeal and fiery wrath I declare that at that time there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 20 The fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the beasts of the field, every creature that moves along the ground, and all the people on the face of the earth will tremble at my presence. The mountains will be overturned, the cliffs will crumble and every wall will fall to the ground. 21 I will summon a sword against Gog on all my mountains, declares the Sovereign Lord. Every man’s sword will be against his brother.

So, no, the walls do not need to be taken down.  The verse:  "I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people—all of them living without walls and without gates and bars."

This means Israel is living in complacency. She does not suspect she will be attacked.  Notice the term:  "unsuspecting"/ it call also mean complacent.   The words used for walls, gates and bars can also mean 'defenses' she doesn't have her defenses up because she does not suspect or expect to be attacked at all from a force coming from Mesach and Tubal (Turkey).  This is what this means.   Not to mention, the mountains of Israel are historically the Lebanon and Anti-Lebanon Mountains - not the Golan.  The Golan Heights are more like the foothills of the mountains of Israel.

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My question is if the Feast of Trumpets isn’t the rapture day ... is it then reserved for the 2nd Coming?

Yom Kippur - is that then the separation of Sheep and Goats?

Feast of Tabernacles - is that when the Millennium Age begins?

 

Also is the rapture day the timeframe that Noah entered the ark or when the flood waters started?  Since Jesus said ... as in the days of Noah were so will it be in the coming of the Son of Man.

Or how about when Enoch was taken?  Does anybody have a clue on the timeframe he disappeared? :unsure:

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Lot of controversy surrounding Enoch’s birth and rapture on Pentecost. No firm validation for positive or negative. :unsure:
year was 987 - Enoch taken up by God (did not die [Gen5:24]), aged 365

year was 1656 - Methuselah dies the same year as the flood comes, aged 969

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Thanks Tammie.

Ok ... we know these facts so far ...

Enoch (7th Generation from Adam)

Hebrews 11:5

By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated  him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

Colossians 1:13

Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son.

So what does translated mean?  Is it just being transferred from one place to another - earth to heaven?  Or does it also mean being physically changed from mortal into immortality and Enoch received his glorified body at that time as well? :unsure:   If so ... then the theory of him being one of the 2 witnesses gets thrown out the door and it can only be Moses and Elijah. B-)

So Enoch was 365 years old when he was rapture up.  Is this a clue we should be using our 365 day calendar for decoding the clues on the Rapture high watch dates? :unsure:

Still trying to figure out what day he flew away on ... any ideas?

 

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The day God took him?? :mdrmdr: :mdrmdr: :unsure:
sorry couldn’t resist the pun .... :wacko:

His age is the reason they moved to the lunar calendar, but that was still not the calendar God used — so my opinion is no!

Remember, Ecclesiastes 3:11 “He has made everything beautiful in its time. Also, he has put eternity into man’s heart, yet so that he cannot find out what God has done from the beginning to the end.”

God knows we would not handle this information well, some would quit everything and sit on the rooftops, others may party it up to plan on the repentance the day before, still others may seek Him.
It is for us to be ready and watch! :prayer-hands: I’m good with that! B-)

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I agree with you that we need to be on alert and watching every day and living like its our last day here.  The Lord wants to reward His children with crowns down thru the centuries so this was the biggest reason why the rapture event is a mystery.  It would have discouraged many if they knew it wasn’t going to happen until 2020, 2021 ...

However, I do ponder this verse Daniel 12:4

But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.

I believe this is pertaining to our generation and I don’t think its wrong to try to figure out the rapture date since we are that close to flying away.

 

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