- Fair Use - I am really enjoying this conversation. I have been positively giddy these last few days. All hades is about to break loose in the middle east. I am as excited as a kid before Christmas. I am really enjoying this conversation. I have been positively giddy these last few days. All hades is about to break loose in the middle east. I am as excited as a kid before Christmas. all hell is about to break loose in the ME and you are excited! I know you are excited about the rapture, but what about the innocent people in that part of the world! I understand what you are saying Whit, and may God's Will be done. Heidi, none of us here are excited about the suffering of others and I do not believe that is what Whit is implying. Terrible things are happening all around the world right now and yet we as believers are excited for the coming of our Savior. These are the signs we were told to look for. For His invisible attributes, namely, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. Ro 1: 20 None of us were innocent Heidi. Jesus gave all who believe, the gift of eternal Life. God tells us in that scripture, that every man is without excuse because God's Creation is visibly seen everywhere. His creation that works and flows perfectly, draws every heart to the truth of His existence. To a choice for life or death biblically speaking. So I understand the horror of seeing evil and or powerful men overcome and kill the weak at will. But we might confuse those who have no defenses against being dominated and crushed, as them being innocent. In one sense they are innocent, because they are not the aggressors - they just want to live life peacefully. Yet in every generation, rulers with power have destroyed those who are defenseless. It is evil, but God will repay. It could happen here in America! The powers that be are using every means to crush the USA and it's Citizens, past, present and till Jesus calls us up. But all that aside - whether we are rich or poor, "free" or slaves - God has shown every person from all time, that through His Creation, He exists, is real, and is drawing all men to Him through the beauty of all He spoke in to existence. No matter what our standing or lot in life, no matter what country, all men have been given that opportunity to understand through His creation, that there is a One and Only True God. Every man on earth, whether oppressed or not, whether overtaken or not, has seen God's Work! It is up to every man on earth to turn to Him and believe! That is all that is required - to Believe! So, as bad and sad that war and domination, and untimely death is, the one thing that every person is responsible for in their own life, is to submit to God - or not - in seeing all He put His hand to that speaks to all His goodness and reason to believe. Wherever war, disaster, or calamities break out, the one and only important decision for every person, is to Believe, to choose Life, to Believe Jesus is God's Son. Death comes, peacefully or by destruction which is tragic, but all that counts bottom line is, what decision will each person choose for their :bible eternal destiny. Taking lives is horrid, but we are assured that everyone united in Christ, will forever live together with Him, where death can never touch those who are His, again. Whit, I sincerely apologize to you I knew you didn't mean it the way it sounded All the best to you I am happy that you are excited and feeling good That's very kind Heidi and I am eternally grateful. I can see how that would come across, I suppose. All that matters is keeping our eye on the ball. Thanks! Whit 
