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Arthur
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Since there has been a thread on chocolate and on drinks, I thought it was time to start one on PIE.

No, not pie! ?

PIE. PIE stands for Proto Indo-European. It is the theory that languages such as English, Russian, Sanskrit, Hittite, German, Italian, Romanian, Armenian, Gaelic, Persian, etc. all have a common language ancestor. (PIE) From the original PIE which was spoken around 4,000 years ago, the languages branched out to well over 400 different languages that we have today from India to Indiana.

In the video, you will see how the PIE word for "poured out" became the English word God.

In a sense, you could say that Jesus, our Saviour, was poured out to God the Father.

Anyway, pie or PIE, it's food for thought. 😉

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrs6U5vYstw

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While in the video, he mentions the original home of the Indo-Europeans and their language to be in Ukraine or Southern Russia (Yamnaya culture), new genetic evidence suggests that Armenia was their original home and the Yamnaya migrated from there to Southern Russia/Ukraine.

This fits well with the dispersion and confusion of languages after the Tower of Babel. In the article below, keep in mind the dating method they use is not entirely accurate. I believe the Tower of Babel and the consequent dispersion of peoples and confusion of languages would have been roughly 4100-4200 years ago.

https://www.peopleofar.com/2018/09/16/new-dna-study-supports-an-armenian-origin-of-the-indo-europeans/

 

 

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I prefer Pi! 🙂 There is an entire language made from the number Pi. Some people loved pi enough to invent a dialect based on it. In “Pi-lish” the number of letters in each word match the corresponding digit of pi. This first word has three letters, the second has one letter, the third has four letters, and so on. This language is more popular than you might think. Software engineer Michael Keith wrote an entire book, called "Not a Wake" in this language.

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Pi is very interesting, too.

Numbers are absolutely fascinating.

Here are the numbers one to ten for many of the Indo-European languages plus a few more thrown in like Basque. No one knows where Basque came from. :scratch:

http://zompist.com/euro.htm

I look forward to meeting all these language speakers from every tribe, tongue and nation in eternity and figuring out how all the languages fit together.

Gardening, language study, music lessons, fellowship and most important, the worship of our Wonderful God will make eternity very busy. :yahoo:

 

 

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Mathematics is the language of science. To me, it is as viable as any other language since it has the ability to communicate deeper meaning. I think language is fascinating and dialect even more so. I've lived an many parts of the country from Pennsylvania to Florida, out to Arizona and California and points in between and I have acquired a rather unique accent, rather mud like :mdrmdr: , but I find it interesting how different regions take on differing dialects. Language, like music and other arts is trying to paint a picture. It's too bad that in recent times the use of language has deteriorated. Read Jane Austin's Pride and Prejudice and then read practically anything written today. :wacko:  It's sad but soon we will get to experience such wonders in a way we could have never imagined!

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I prefer pie.. Like chocolate pie.. Smile

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While I do agree that educational standards have dropped precipitously in the last generation or two, there is such a thing as linguistic snobbery.

This is the idea that a language was perfect in the past and has now de-evolved. King James Onlyists, for example, use this argument or people advocating for using the "Queen's English" only.

Languages evolve and change all the time. I am not so concerned if some uses the "word" bigly or ginormous, to be honest. People can use ain't and it doesn't bother me.

Besides, in the Bible, we have Koine or common Greek. I am sure that the intellectuals and high minded people of that day looked down upon it but I find it to be very elegant. It was a supposed "downgrade" from classical Greek.

Anyway, just my thoughts on the matter. :mail:

 

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We're probably all going to adopt (because we're free) Hebrew beginning in the Millennium.  I wonder how to say "Chocolate Cream Pie please" and "Key Lime Pie please" in Hebrew. :unsure: :unsure:

Maybe a universal heavenly language will make sense to adopt. :good:

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I certainly think that we will perfectly understand each other in eternity. There probably will be Eternal Esperanto, of some sort.

I hope we will still retain our original languages, though. It would be fun to hear what language Adam, Noah or Job spoke and learn it and from it. Of course, the languages would be glorified in some manner to leave out anything that is displeasing to God.

Plus, pie. Pie is always good. ? ?

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Here's a good article in PIE and why it is important. The concept of language families and linguistic science supports what the Bible says and not evolution.

https://answersingenesis.org/tower-of-babel/more-than-pie/

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