I would 100% disagree. I think its very naive to think or say that the demonic fallen angles are not on earth now. We know the demonic in various forms are. We're splitting hairs saying the demonic are just demonic and not fallen angels. The demonic are running the Cabal. They are the 13 families running the world. They are in every government. They are running the sex slave trade industries world wide. I would say with almost 100% certainty the fallen angels are on earth right now and have been on earth in various forms since the time of the flood. For whatever reason the holy spirit has allowed them. Including the Nephilim. Giants with 2 rows of teeth and 6 finger hands and 6 finger toes have been found on earth. The most recent in Afghanistan by soldiers in a cave Kandahar Giant of 2016. Of course our government will deny it but listen to Steve Quayle interviewing the pilots that took the giant out. Its convincing. And if we wrestle with the demonic fallen Angels Specifically Isnt it naive to say they re not in our realm on earth or in our heaven of existence in accordance to the 3 heavens of scripture? The Bible mentions three different heavens. What are they exactly? The Earth’s Atmosphere The first heaven, in terms of distance from us, is the earth’s atmosphere. It’s where clouds form and from where rain falls. Here are some Scriptural examples of this heaven. Luke 4:25 “But I tell you truly, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elijah, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, and there was a great famine throughout all the land; Luke 17:24 “For as the lightning that flashes out of one part under heaven shines to the other part under heaven, so also the Son of Man will be in His day. Luke 17:29 “but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire. Outer Space The second heaven, in terms of distance from us, is outer space. It’s were the stars are. Here are some Scriptural examples of this heaven. Mat 24:29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 2 Pet 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. God’s Throne The third heaven, in terms of distance from us, is the throne of God. It’s where God is. Here are some Scriptural examples of this heaven. Mat 5:34 “But I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne; Acts 7:49 ‘Heaven is My throne, And earth is My footstool. What house will you build for Me? says the LORD, Or what is the place of My rest? Paul referred to this heaven as the third heaven. 2 Cor 12:2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago; whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows; such a one was caught up to the third heaven. This heaven is also the place where our reward is stored. Mat 5:12 “Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you. Mat 6:20 “but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. Mat 19:21 Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” Our inheritance is reserved in heaven. 1 Pet 1:4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, Our names are written in this heaven. Luke 10:20 “Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.” Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, Our citizenship is in heaven. Phil 3:20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, The Father is in heaven. Mat 5:16 “Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven. Mat 5:48 “Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect. Jesus Christ is in heaven. Heb 8:1 Now this is the main point of the things we are saying: We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, 1 Pet 3:21 There is also an antitype which now saves us; baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, Angels are also in heaven. Mat 18:10 “Take heed that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say to you that in heaven their angels always see the face of My Father who is in heaven. Mat 22:30 “For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven. Luke 22:43 Then an angel appeared to Him from heaven, strengthening Him. Gal 1:8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. Satan comes to Rob kill and destroy. He knows the rapture is coming very soon. Time is short. What better way than a fake alien invasion to create the allusion that there is no God and attempt to unite the faiths that follow the Antichrist? "Why else would men's hearts fail them for things they see coming?" “Why else would men’s hearts fail them for things they see coming?” Well … I see many areas where the left behind will be “in fear” We just got a glimpse seeing them in fear for 2 years with covid and wearing the masks and standing in line for all the shots and boosters. In return many experienced sudden death (heart failure) from the blood clots and/or whatever else that poison did inside their bodies to accelerate the process. Fear can also be with the GREAT earthquakes coming when the graves of the saints open up for the rapture and seeing their saved loved ones were taken and the children suddenly gone too Fear in seeing the sea waves roaring - massive flooding and their homes, cars destroyed Fear that their money is wiped out - they will own nothing Fear that they will be eating bugs and have no water soon and placed in “smart cities” and no longer have their freedom Fear of nuke exchange with the “power of the heavens” shall be shaken There will be much to fear … all the judgments that are coming … the electrical grid shut down, etc. Luke 21 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. As you yourself wrote, Boulder: "The question is when, and in what form." It's foolish to argue about anything either way here without specifying both when, and in what form. And arguing simply plays into the enemy's hands as we loudly disagree. It's after the tribulation that men's hearts are failing them for fear to see what's coming. Right? Of course things are fearsome now, and have been for thousands of years. Demons have been running loose even before Noah. Right? Of course! From the beginning, Satan has come to kill steal and destroy. Right? But Satan is cast down from heaven upon our being taken up to heaven. Unless those days were cut short no flesh would survive. And you yourself early this morning posted an amazing jaw dropping expose regarding bioweapons. Those evil demonic satanic beings are those who have loosed the bio weapons starting around the time my own father was born -- 1913. Right? So may we please stop arguing about things and pleasing the devil who enjoys our being divided. :feedback
1 Pet 3:22 who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to Him.
