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David W. Roche
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most Hebrew scholars believe that 2,300 days is the correct translation.

No, they do not.  Moreover, the number 2300 was a compromise between manuscripts which had either 2200 and 2400 Evenings and Mornings, which is not the same as "days."

It started out as 2200 and some copyist repeated the words for 200, giving 2400 in some ancient version.  Later on, it was decided that they would split the difference and render it as 2300.  Nevertheless, the idiom refers to an evening and a morning sacrifice.  In addition to that, the prophecy was fulfilled long ago by Antiochus Ephiphanes.  The numbers do not correspond with what will be done by the future Man of Sin.

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He understands our frames and the longing of our hearts!  Especially with regards to a divine authored love affair!

He also truly loves and regards our prayers!  He likes it when we turn to Him in all things. Being the ultimate supplier!

Even so, He also knows what is best!

I believe that all the prayers of the saints were already heard and answered before they were spoken!!

As such He has already shortened the length of Tribulation days.

TR

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By the way, welcome back Grumpy.

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Ditto!

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As to whether Daniel 8:14 is speaking of 2,300 days or 1,150 days I would offer the many translations to be seen at: https://biblehub.com/daniel/8-14.htm
1,150 days are needed to make it work in the historic time frame of Antiochus Epiphanies.

As for Antiochus Epiphanies being the one spoken of in Daniel chapter 8 he is. And so is the Antichrist.
Antiochus never "waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them."Daniel 8:10 (KJV)
The angel Gabriel tells Daniel that the vision is for the time of the end in verse 8:17.

The angel went on to say "And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days." Daniel 8:26 This in reference to when the 2,300 days would come into play.

 

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Off topic, seems that since Napoleon it's been downhill for French politicians?!

But then again, you know how some are termed legally blind but can still see.  I guess I could be called legally brain dead!

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OK, 17th check!

Haircut, check!

Clean shaven, check!

Brush teeth, check!

Clean underwear, oh oh.  Buy clean underwear, check!

TR

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https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/timeline-the-2300-2200-evenings-mornings-of-daniel.74285/

This subject bothers me because people begin to search for imagined future prophecies and ignore the accuracy of what has already been fulfilled.

There is a simple explanation for why the numbers in Daniel 8 and other chapters in Daniel do not correspond:  They refer to the histories of two similar, yet different individuals.

As for "the time of the end," in context it refers to the end of that kingdom, and not necessarily to the end of the age when Christ returns.

https://herealittletherealittle.net/index.cfm?page_name=Daniel11

The 11th and 12th chapters of Daniel are difficult to interpret.  Chapter 12 inescapably speaks of the resurrection of the dead, which has not yet occurred.  Chapter 11 covers a lot of ancient history, but where does the jump in time occur?  Many put the gap at 11:36.  Others want to put it even earlier than that.

I find it unlikely that the Antichrist will want to invade Egypt for its "treasures."  That doesn't fit very well with the modern era, and there is a historical pattern that answers these verses already.

What do we do with the opening of chapter 12?  We understand that the Church age puts the 70th week on hold, and it has remained there for almost 2,000 years.  Any way you slice it, the text jumps in time from ancient history to the future between the 11th and 12 chapters.

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Good point ... the tomb raiders pretty much cleared out all the valuable treasures in those Egyptian tombs ... like The Grinch in Wholville.   The Vatican though ... is a horse of a different color  ... it would be worthwhile for the AC to wanna tour that basement ... just have to get past the skeletons in the closets ... B-)

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https://www.christianforums.com/threads/is-herod-the-great-the-subject-at-the-end-of-the-daniel-11.8092881/

It's a puzzle, and one of the most difficult parts of Daniel to comprehend.

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