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Geri7, here's a couple of posts for you to read.

Zechariah 11:10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people. 11 And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD.

The staff God holds is the church. God calls the staff “Beauty” because this is how the church is seen by God. “cut it asunder” means God is perfecting the church since it’s establishment in first century. When the staff is broken in one day, that is, when God calls the church home, the poor of the flock which is “us” shall know that this is the word of Jesus. He kept his promise by not letting us into the tribulation.

Immediately after God breaks the first staff Church, God turns His attention to the second staff which is Israel.

Zechariah 11:14 Then I cut asunder mine other staff, even Bands, that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.

“cut asunder mine other staff” means God shall perfect His people Israel in the tribulation, to make Jesus’ name known to them so that the house of Israel shall be saved.

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Zechariah 11: 11 And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD.

“Waited upon me”

Since the first century, there have been many generations which has waited for Jesus’ return. We are the generation which has the privilege for “waited upon me” to occur !!!

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Yohanan, 1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

After Paul gave this mystery of rapture to Thessalonians, he went on to say "But of the times and the seasons". We need to understand that "But of the times and the seasons" is a connection to the rapture previously written by Paul.

"For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them"  Paul went on to say when people are feeling security and peaceful, rapture shall come upon them as a sudden destruction, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

"But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. " "That day" is referred to the day sudden destruction comes, that is, rapture. Paul said that day should not take us by surprise, and overtake us as a thief. He knew there would come some warning from God before sudden destruction/rapture comes upon people. He didn't know what that warning was in his time. But now through the examination of Zechariah 11, we know the warning is the three shepherds war which should happen prior to rapture.

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2nd Coming,

I have “brain fog” right now and I really want to call it “snow fog” because the barometric air pressure is great and I have a headache ... in layman’s terms can you explain when these wars occur in your timeline?  All I need is before the rapture, after the rapture and before the tribulation starts, etc.  And does the 3 Shepherd’s war overlap into any of these other wars or is it completely separate from them?

3 Shepherd’s War
Jeremiah 49 Elam bow broken
Psalm 83
Isaiah 17
Ezekiel 38-39

Note:  Sean Osborne at Eschatology Today believes Jeremiah 49 can happen very soon ... do you feel that way?  Or are you looking at the 3 Shepherd’s war first to occur?

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Geri7,

the three shepherds are Lebanon (where Hezbollah is), Syria and Jordan. We also find them in the 4th transgression in Amos 1-2, Psalm 83. Basically they are the same war.

Concerning the season of this war, according to Isaiah 16:8-9, and Jeremiah 48:32, this war shall happen in summer.

Isaiah 16:8 For the fields of Heshbon languish, and the vine of Sibmah: the lords of the heathen have broken down the principal plants thereof, they are come even unto Jazer, they wandered through the wilderness: her branches are stretched out, they are gone over the sea.
9 Therefore I will bewail with the weeping of Jazer the vine of Sibmah: I will water thee with my tears, O Heshbon, and Elealeh: for the shouting for thy summer fruits and for thy harvest is fallen.

Isaiah 16 is an oracle against Moab which is modern day Jordan. Jordan is one of the three shepherds in Zechariah 11 and one of the accomplice in Amos 1-2, and Psalm 83.

Key words are " for thy summer fruits and for thy harvest is fallen." It places the timing of the three shepherds war in summer. We also find this is true by studying Jeremiah 48:32.

Jeremiah 48:32 O vine of Sibmah, I will weep for thee with the weeping of Jazer: thy plants are gone over the sea, they reach even to the sea of Jazer: the spoiler is fallen upon thy summer fruits and upon thy vintage.

Again. Jeremiah 48 is another oracle against Moab. Key words are "the spoiler is fallen upon thy summer fruits and upon thy vintage." This also places three shepherds war in summer.

Take 2020 to 2027 timeline for example.

By May/June     Three shepherds war/Psalm 83/4th transgression breaks out. God cuts them off in one month. This takes us to July, when their summer fruits are fallen.

July Rapture

Immediately after rapture, appearance of Anti Christ on world stage. God foretold his fate, that is, he shall receive a sword wound which results in his both arms wither, and right eye dried.

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Geri7,

Elam prophecy shall be fulfilled during the battle of Gog/Magog. After the rapture in this summer, seeing US and EU crippled by rapture, Russia together with Turkey and Iran launch attack against Israel. This battle of Gog/Magog takes place in this summer also, very likely begins in this August. God shall send earthquake and brimstone to them. Earthquake should rattle  the land beneath their nuclear facilities. Multiple nuclear explosions occur in Iran. Because of nuclear contamination, Iran becomes uninhabitable. They shall be scattered all over the nations.

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We know the season, but as the Lord Jesus Himself said: Mt 24:36  But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. And He wasn't referring to the Second Coming, which can be accurately assessed 1260 days the Abomination of Desecration takes place, in the exact same way the Pharisees knew the exact day He would enter Jerusalem in their day.

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God has left Daniel's 69 weeks for the Jews to calculate the exact day of their Messiah entering Jerusalem, but they have ignored it. Simeon knew that before his death, he would see the Messiah. Anna the prophetess who gave thanks to God, spoke of God to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem after Jesus was born . God either leaves a clue, or uses the Holy Spirit to guide people to recognize what is going to happen immediately. The rapture is no exception.  There should be some warning and events coming from God before the rapture.

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The staff God holds is the church. God calls the staff “Beauty” because this is how the church is seen by God. “cut it asunder” means God is perfecting the church since it’s establishment in first century. When the staff is broken in one day, that is, when God calls the church home, the poor of the flock which is “us” shall know that this is the word of Jesus. He kept his promise by not letting us into the tribulation.

I have to disagree with this. When Zechariah breaks the staff Beauty, he is annulling the covenant that restrained the Gentiles from oppressing God's people, Israel. The Church was not formed until the Book of Acts, not during the time of Zechariah.

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The rapture is no exception.  There should be some warning and events coming from God before the rapture.

Not according to the King of kings and it is Him that I will believe, not man's interpretations.

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