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Five Doves June 18th, 2023 Letters.

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Five Doves, Neil Lipken (18 Jun 2023)
"Rapture dream----this is very good!"  Short and well worth listening to!--Neil

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Five Doves Neil Lipken (18 Jun 2023)
"Watch 'Rapture Dream we went up before DESTRUCTION!🔥' on YouTuber":

I found this "short" most interesting and decided to send it out.   This girl mentions that the Rapture happens "around summertime."  --Neil

[Note: there are other short YouTubes beneath this one that are not related.]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kSComzs9qCg
 

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I seen 'some' of the sisters here....Alot of us who are not worshiping in spirit and in truth, who are not righteous and holy, guess what, you're not going. You're going to be left behind I'm telling you right now, to a world full of destruction with every corner you will go, there will be mourning, there will be crying. No one will be able to comfort you!

Re: the rapture dream video, in case it brought any doubt:

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. john 3

Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy. jude 24

I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them out of My hand. My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all. No one can snatch them out of My Father’s hand. john 10

For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor principalities, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. ro 8

For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. 2 cor 5:21

Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from what is dishonorable, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart as holy, useful to the master of the house, ready for every good work. 2 timothy 2
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We find a parallel idea to “without holiness no one will see the Lord” in these words from Paul: “For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God” (Ephesians 5:5). Of the future, glorious New Jerusalem, the apostle John said, “Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life” (Revelation 21:27).

It’s vital to understand that, as the Lord’s redeemed people, we are made holy through Christ’s finished work, the offering of His body on the cross (Hebrews 10:10, 14; Ephesians 1:4; 1 Corinthians 1:2). We are saved by Jesus “to a holy calling, not because of our works but because of his own purpose and grace, which he gave us in Christ Jesus before the ages began” (2 Timothy 1:9, ESV). “He saved us, not because of the righteous things we had done, but because of His mercy. He washed away our sins, giving us a new birth and new life through the Holy Spirit” (Titus 3:5, NLT).

Sanctification is based on the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and the ongoing work of the indwelling Holy Spirit (Colossians 1:22; 1 Thessalonians 5:23; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; John 3:5–8; 1 Corinthians 6:11). Motivated by the knowledge that “without holiness no one will see the Lord,” we continue going all-out for Christ, striving to put on our “new nature, created to be like God—truly righteous and holy” (Ephesians 4:24

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Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make straight your paths. prov 3

Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you... james 4

Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you. Not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid. john 14

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What this dream is indicating goes against the word of God.  For example, not by works, once saved always saved, scores of Scriptures to the contrary, everything that Jesus said about belief in Him alone being our salvation, and on and on in the Bible -- this more virtuous woman, who herself supposedly worships God at some high level of "in spirit and in truth," -- quickly negates.

Listen to what she says between time marker 6:00 and 6:20.

QUOTE ...because on that day a lot of us who are not worshiping in spirit and in truth, who are not righteous and holy, guess what: you’re not going, and you’re going to be left behind.  UNQUOTE

All believers not being saved at the Rapture would be a combination of pre-trib rapture, mid-trib Rapture, and evidently tribulation martyrdom for today's believers who don't maintain a certain Godly posture at the moment of the Rapture.  That's preposterous and such teaching does not fit RITA's creeds.

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Sorry, I just thought it was an inspiring dream, and I didn't pay that close attention to every word.

I know there are a lot of people who expect to go to heaven because they think they're "good enough," who may not go in the rapture.  No one is good enough without Christ.  He is the Door.

I didn't mean to break the rules.

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You didn't break any rules Patricia, truly. No worries :rose: Her declaration of who won't go in the rapture was what I felt needed clarification. She could have defined, or included that if you are unsaved, you will not go. That was the crux of it all.

Instead she was painting a broad picture that even people in her church will not be going! There just needed to be clarification between the lost and the saved re: who will go, which was not addressed by her - in what we heard anyway. I don't doubt she likely had to clarify to some members in their church afterward.

She had a dream, but if God gave it to her, she got "off script" in to her own interpretation on that point. Yes, many lost feel they are good enough to enter heaven on their own merit, true, but her interpretation inferred seemingly to the saved, that if they "are not worshiping in spirit and in truth, and who are not righteous and holy," you will be left behind.

All christians are at different levels in their walk at different times, but the sure thing is that, they are redeemed saved and holy through finished work of Jesus on the Cross by His grace and mercy. We are kept by Him and will go up to Him. Where she left it on the video, might bring doubt and confusion to some listeners, without explanation that gives assurance.

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