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So, the Swiss medical authorities have ruled out that the 91 year old Swiss man died from the vaxxxine. They say that he suffered from multiple health issues and that was likely the cause of death.

The hypocrisy is glaring as anyone who dies with multiple issues and has “tested“ positive for Coronovirus in the last 28 days is automatically classified as a Coronovirus death. At least in the USA and Canada.

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Swiss medical authorities dismissed rumors of BioNTech-Pfizer coronavirus vaccine causing the death of an elderly patient.

The death of the 91-year-old in the central canton of Lucerne was widely reported in Switzerland. The Swiss agency for therapeutic products, Swissmedic, confirmed the incident on Monday, but said the patient already suffered from multiple illnesses.

"Clarifications by cantonal health authorities and Swissmedic determined that, as a result of the illness history and disease course, a link between the death and the COVID-19 vaccine was highly unlikely," it said in a statement.

"Neither the medical history nor the acute course of disease suggests a direct causal link between the COVID-19 vaccine and the death," it said.

The regulator said the death certificate would list the previous illnesses as the person's "natural cause of death."

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-switzerland-denies-rumors-of-covid-vaccine-causing-death/a-56099469

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what Arthur said is exactly what i was thinking...it IS direct result of COVID 19 if you die with the infection, but is NOT direct result of the vaccine if you die very soon after it....at least count them same way...if the main people who need the vaccine are those who have pre-existing conditions or are elderly, then they will blame deaths on that & not the vaccine, but if they die from the disease the virus is blamed...really??  wow...talk about manipulating to fit your desired outcome

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also, i don't know if the guardian is reliable for scientific accuracy, but from what i understood, it said that the variant (in England I think) was "...missing the S-gene, which encodes the spike protein..."  https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/22/new-coronavirus-variant-b117-transmitting     -fair use-

i don't understand all this stuff- am no virologist or genetics scientist etc...but this immediately made me think of the currently being used vaccines and what i thought they are doing is coding to make the spike protein in order to have our bodies make antibodies to fight the real virus when the immune system recognizes the presence of this spike protein??  wouldn't that mean if the virus no longer has the s-gene then the antibodies made becuz of these vaccines would not work on this variant??!  i don't know...but it would be nice if people who do know will be courageous and speak up to everyone no matter how disappointing to many or how angry it would make those who stand to benefit from the vaccine being successful at stopping the pandemic...but then again, they can just hurry up & use these and make the next one...and the next one....and on and on...

 

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sorry, i meant if they die "with" not "from" the disease then the virus is blamed, but i don't see the edit button

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«Christ-forsaking world.” Nailed it.

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Interesting study on wearing a veil.

The effect of wearing the veil by Saudi ladies on the occurrence of respiratory diseases
E F Ahmad et al. J Asthma. 2001 Aug.

Abstract
It is customary in clinical practice and elsewhere to put on a mask for protection against infection, dust, and so forth. The veil, which is traditionally worn by women in many Muslim countries, especially in Saudi Arabia, may have a similar effect. The study was carried out during 1998-1999 in the eastern province of Saudi Arabia. Adult women were asked to answer a structured questionnaire related to the occurrence of respiratory tract problems and about veil wearing. Veil wearing was practiced by 58% of the sample. Respiratory infections and asthma were significantly more common in veils users (p < 0.00001 and p < 0.0003, respectively). This unexpected finding was probably secondary to infection. More and bigger studies are recommended.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11515979/

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Do masks work? Nope. Follow this fascinating twitter thread:

https://mobile.twitter.com/mamasaurusMeg/status/1344652685375631362

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So sad... Cry
For the second time this week, an Israeli man died mere hours after getting the covid-19 vaccination.

https://www.israel365news.com/163378/for-second-time-in-2-days-israeli-man-dies-right-after-getting-coronavirus-shot/

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Great twitter thread on DeSantis (Florida) versus Cuomo (New York) and their responses to this "pandemic." DeSantis has done a much better job and yet you'd never know it from the biased and compromised msm. :wacko:

https://mobile.twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1344439480720252928

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